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Glory to Jesus Christ!

This is very good news.

I suppose it will not get the attention in the media that it deserves, but it is still great to hear.


http://apnews.myway.com//article/20071120/D8T1EO1O2.html

Deacon El

I saw it too. It's wonderful!

They need to distinguish more often between embryonic stem cells and adult stem cells. There may be confusion about the issue.

Terry

I mean if anything comes out that will affect the abortion industry, they will be silent. They don't want people to know everything that the aborted fetuses are used for. So this is just another abortion to them in a way. The child never entered it's momas womb but it was destroyed for othere purposes just the same.

So yeah, it want make the drive by media.

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The researchers and media intentionally do NOT want to distinguish between embryonic and adult stem cells or umbilical cord stem cells so that they can control where our tax money goes.

I'm really confused by this article; they speak as though this is the first success for adult stem cells, yet there has already been 73 successful cures and/or successful human therapies (Lifelines/Fall 20007, Pa Pro-Life Federation.

Over the past year I have read about successful adult stem cells generating heart tissue,one here in the United States and one by a Jewish doctor in Malaysia. They use the patients' cells so there was no danger of rejection.

I think the big deal here is that they are patenting the processes and are already anticipating the big bucks, especially by the Scottish group that became famous from the Dolly clone.

Even so, I am delighted to see this success and the shock of those researchers who believe in the human sacrifice of embryoes for research purposes.

Praise God!

Fr. Deacon Paul

It is great news and surprisingly enough they did have a story on it on the CBS evening news last night.

"Over the past year I have read about successful adult stem cells generating heart tissue,one here in the United States and one by a Jewish doctor in Malaysia. They use the patients' cells so there was no danger of rejection."

Fr. Deacon Paul,

Have you heard of cases where embryonic stem cell experiments were successful? I have not. I have heard of failures, like one case where the embryonic stem cell once implanted in someone's brain (to restore damaged cells) grew into bone.

Terry

Terry,

As others have posted on this thread, the main reason for the scientists desiring freedom to experiment using embryonic stem cells (ESC) is that, since ESCs are totipotent (capable of becoming every kind of organ possible, and of developing into human beings), it is conceivable, under the law, that patents could be filed and enforced, if a person, individual or corporate, could determine an algorithm or design of a process leading to some desired medical or biological result, including an entire human being. That would translate into big-bucks.

The problem with totipotent cells (apart from murder) so far has been that they develop into undesirable "products", even cancers, due to their totipotent character.

The new discovery, and now independent verification, of the ability of pluripotent stem-cells (capable of becoming, in theory, every kind of tissue, but not capable of developing into human beings), may or may not be susceptible to patents, but in any case, no human beings are destroyed in the process, and the very undesirable results, such as cancer, have not been seen (to the best of my knowledge).

One of the reasons why policy-activists favoring ESC research keep floating referenda for public funding of same is that the free-market has deemed the financial returns to be had from ESC research vis-a-vis research using adult and pluripotent cells to be essentially ZERO. Thus there is no venture funding for it from the private sector! Hence, the drive to gull voters into funding it. Of course, the private "developers" always reap the gains, not the taxpayers. (Not that that is my principal concern about ESC research!)

And I did see coverage of this (a segment) on the PBS News Hour last night, with one ESC scientist declaring his surprise at how simple it turned out to be to condition pluripotent cells to be programmed by scientists. They only mentioned one such scientist, and none have declared that they will cease engaging in ESC research as a result (to the best of my knowledge), so there remains a big campaign of engaging the public on the issue.

Best regards,
Michael

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Terry,
No, there has not been one successful treatment with EMBRYONIC stem cells. As I understand, they aren't even close. They only talk about "potential."
There have been two separate occasions within the last 8 months of falsified claims of "breakthroughs." This whole embryonic research deal is savage.

Fr. Deacon Paul

Here is a link which exposes the misinformation about stem cell research.

http://www.stemcellresearchfacts.com/media_myths.html

Fr. Deacon Paul