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very good, sir.

If anyone has an hour and 15 minutes to watch this video, give it a go. The sound is a bit off and two of the scientists on the documentary have now said they felt duped by the way they were filmed. That said, there are still a great number of scientists who hold fast to their claims.
I believe that the heating is mainly due to natural cycles. Greenland wasn't named Greenland for the fun of it! Do humans contribute to some nth degree of warming?? I don't know. I do think it would be nice if we could clean up the air a bit.....all that smog can't be great for us. :-)
Anyways enjoy: http://en.sevenload.com/videos/ha4PoKY/The-Great-Global-Warming-Swindle

You can see the list of scientists and other related items here too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle
Aaron

Perhaps more than anything, whether of not Global warming is happening, it is most likely a way to get the masses to push for alternative fuels. Which should be high on the list of things to do. Everytime I drive up a mountain road there is a new strip mine.
Gas is what 3.10 a gallon. Natural gas costs soo much. Diesel costs so much the prices get passed onto us. The best thing is to have a government that will help place the infrastructure for non-petroleum fuel products and less dependency on coal.

The IPCC has released a summary of its upcoming report on global warming. (The IPCC stands for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which is the panel at the United Nations that is monitoring global warming.) The summary is 23 pages long, so I won't copy it here. Instead, you can download it for free as an MS Word document at http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar4/syr/ar4_syr_spm.doc It shows two main points: (1) the earth is warming up and (2) air pollution from human activity is the leading cause. It also shows that this warming is occurring at an increasingly rapid rate --far more rapid than expected-- and that it will soon reach a point of no return unless humanity takes strong, urgent action now.

-- John

An interesting aside from from that report is the discussion of increased acidity of the oceans. It is a result of the oceans abosorbing some of the increased CO2 in the atmosphere, and it yields a weak carbonic acid in the sea. If that acid content continues to rise, it could poison some forms of life in the seas. That, in turn, could adversely affect the food chain in sea that so many people rely upon for their nourishment.

-- John

NASA Debunks Part of Global Warming Myth, Will the Media Report It?

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-s...global-warming-myth-will-media-report-it

The questions as to why and how the last several ice ages receded, long long before there were factories, cars, etc. is enough for any educated person to question the claims that humans are causing any kind of global climate warming. Also, Mars has seen decreases in their polar caps, once again any educated person knows that there isn't any factories, cars, people, etc. on Mars, why is that happening?

Another piece of info that Al Gore, the Goracle, won't answer is why is the amount of ice measured in Antarctica at its highest levels ever measured currently?

The next time the media presents you with a photo of a poor helpless polar bear and tries to put the idea in your head that they are in danger, know that the opposite is happening, the polar bear population is exploding currently.

Remember all of those hurricanes that were supposed to occur this year and last year, didn't happen did it?

Monomakh

Cold snap prompts dreams of white Christmas

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/11/20/nsnow120.xml

I wouldn't use this cold snap as 'proof' against global warming, but likewise if there was a warm spell I don't know why people cry that that is proof of global warming.

I've seen posts on here about how 'warmer' some winters are in Northeast Ohio here as proof. I don't remember hearing about the one foot on snow and 20 degree weather this past Pascha (Easter) though?

Also the year before last saw a record snow fall in Cleveland as well.

Monomakh

The photographer of that picture admits that it was taken several years ago. The polar bears died of a storm, not global warming.

Global warming and the Gaia religion so many adhere to is a scam only second to the great snake oil salesman of the old west.

Ed

Let's clean up and take better care of our environment through our own initiatives, and let us tell the tell the rest of the world i,e, the UN that you will have no say whatsoever in these United States, not now, not ever.

It was me, and I posted about northwest Ohio. No, I didn't post about the things you mentioned because they didn't seem all that remarkable to me. Snow in Cleveland and northeastern Ohio is normal. Finding a blooming dandelion on New Year's Eve last year (2006) because it was so warm, however, did seem remarkable to me; and that is whay I posted on that and how the winters have become less snowy and milder where I live.

The rest of this post is to anyone at this thread.

Crule pretty much summarized it in his earlier post. Nothing that I say is going to convince you because your minds are made up that global warming is a scam. Likewise, nothing that you say is going to convince me otherwise because I am convinced that global warming is real.

In a way, I hope you are right and I am wrong. I hope that that climate is ok and that the things I've noticed are just flukes.

But, I don't think so. And that's because of the vast amount of evidence out there. It's not just about what I've noticed where I lived (although that is what got me interested in this issue). It's all the many things happening around the world. I won't list them again. That's because you have your interpretation of the data, and I have mine, and we will never be convinced otherwise unless there is overwhelming evidence to prove us wrong.

-- John

John,

We've done our part to worship to goddess of earth. Before we were Catholic we used Artificial Birth Control. Since our conversion we are too old to do anything about it. Now it's up to you all to avoid having children so the earth can be saved.

BTW Does anyone have a plant catalogue so I can order my palm trees for Joliet?

CDL

Sorry CDL, I have 4 kids so I have ruined that plan.

I have no idea whether global warming is a) real or b) caused by human beings.

What does seem real to me, and true, is that we humans, especially in the West, and especially here in the U.S., do tend to consume way-too-much, perhaps individually, but certainly collectively.

"Blessed are the poor in spirit". Yes, I know this isn't a condemnation of "wealth", but it is an exhortation to live detached from material things.

My daughter brought home a DVD from the BBC on Planet Earth (not the "Blue Planet" series, but a later one). Beautiful photography, etc., but then it ends on the following note: "Earth can only sustain, perhaps, 3.5 billion people; yet currently there are 6+ billion people on the planet, and that number will be approximately 9 billion by 2050". They kind of just let that one hang there....

Then, they started in on those nasty Africans and Muslims whose growth rate is just way off the charts! They chorused a group of scientists and activists (all very prosperous looking) from Great Britain and the U.S.A., all warning of unsustainability.

If you take their (implied) argument seriously then one or all of the following seem to be inevitable:

a) the West will contracept itself out of existence, graciously thereby freeing up its inordinate use of the world's material resources;

b) various wars/genocides will have to be initiated to reduce the number of the "unwashed" BELOW ITS CURRENT LEVEL;

c) man will learn (and quickly) how to get off this shrinking planet, and populate the stars a la Isaac Asimov and friends; or

d) something else.

Has anybody else seen this video, and am I reading too much into it?

Best,
Michael

There are cases where women have had abortions "to save the planet".

A woman who had an abortion and sterilized herself for this cause said, "Having children is selfish. It's all about maintaining your genetic line at the expense of the planet." http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_article_id=495495&in_page_id=1879

Wide-scale sterilization projects seem to be gaining support from the radical environmentalists.
http://www.calcatholic.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?id=5de39106-8a30-46ba-945e-77c06a375aba

We stopped at two. I wish we had more.

CDL