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Dear all,

here are a few short videos from Fr Serge's DL on Sunday 23rd Sept this year!

End of First Antiphon [youtube.com]

Little Entrance [youtube.com]

Trisagion [youtube.com]

Great Entrance [youtube.com]

Holy Communion [youtube.com]

The singing is quite a bit on the slow side, but these singers are a Gregorian schola who only had two practices, so they're not accustomed to singing fast (I was trying my best to speed it up).

Enjoy!

So, were you in the black cassock leading the choir?

I found the clips very interesting! There are more Greek Catholics in Singapore than I thought. The English translations seemed pretty familiar to me (a member of ROCOR).

Fr David Straut

In the clip of the Great Entrance, it looked to me as though Father was only holding the Diskarion, not the Chalice.

First: Am I seeing that correctly?

Second: If I am seeing that correctly, is that because this is a Greek Catholic custom? Or perhaps because of the steps and maneuvering did Father think it imprudent to try to carry the Chalice?

Fr David Straut

In the Little Entrance, Father went down the whole North Aisle of the Nave and came back to the Altar up the centre aisle. He did the same for the Great Entrance. Is that customary in some (or all) Greek Catholic churches? In Antiochian Orthodox churches in the United States (at least) the Clergy make such a procession at the Great Entry, but at the Small Entry there is a much shorter procession. The Russian Orthodox have short processions for both the Small and Great Entrances.
I find these differences fascinating.

Fr David Straut

At the Great Entrance, Father mentioned a several Hierarchs. I realise that he probably did this because there were Greek Catholics from several sui iuris Churches present at the Liturgy. There are Pan-Orthodox services at which I have been present where I have seen similar things done. But is it not correct to commemorate only the Hierarchy under which the priest is serving (or perhaps the Hierarchy of the church in which the Liturgy takes place.)? It goes without saying that I understand that Greek Catholics will all commemorate the Pope first before the Patriarch and Ruling Bishop of the sui iuris Church. But I'm asking if its correct to commemorate several Patriarchs and Ruling Bishops who are not present at the Liturgy?

Fr David Straut

Who is this Henry, King of England, France, Scotland, and Ireland - I hope that I am remembering correctly - that was commemorated by Father Serge at the Great Entrance?

Fr David Straut

In truth I have seen it done both ways in Ruthenian parishes in the US.

This Henry in question is Henry IX (Henry Benedict Cardinal Stuart), a grandson of the deposed Catholic king James II and son of Prince James Francis Edward Stuart (The Old Pretender), claimant to the English and Scottish thrones; recognised as the rightful sovereign by Louis XIV.

Interesting. I've just reviewed the video recording. Fr Serge gave no indication that King Henry was departed this life, so I thought he was some living claimant to the Thrones of England, France, Scotland, and Ireland. In fact he coupled the commemoration of the King with a petition for the well-being of these peoples King Henry governed, so I again I thought him to still be among the living. When I commemorate someone who has fallen asleep in the Lord, I preface their (title and) name with a phrase such as, "the departed servant of God, N., or "the ever-memorable servant of God, N." Or I follow the (title and) name with a qualifier such as, "the servant of God, N., (newly) fallen asleep in the Lord," or "the servant of God, N., departed this life," or something like that. Of course, Fr Serge may also usually do so, but omitted it in this instance. I don't know what i'd say in the Liturgy if I knew a movie camera was trained on me!

Fr David Straut

Did anyone catch if he also commemorated the present Jacobite
claimant, generally but not universally acknowledged as
Francis II (otherwise known as the Duke of
Bavaria)? The claim will eventually pass to the present
Princess of Lichtenstein, Francis' neice.

I wonder why Fr. Serge commemorated King-Cardinal Henry at
that particular Liturgy. It was not the anniversary of his death.

If this seems off-topic, Fr. Serge led us there!

Edmac

There would have been no reason to do so - Singapore ceased to be part of the British Empire a while back =)

King-Cardinal Henry was commemorated since there was a solemn high mass for his repose in London, and several of us had wished to have been there for that.

Well-observed, Father David. A quick check of the relevant
Wikipedia article mentions no living claimant named Henry.
Perhaps Fr. Serge will enlighten us.

Edmac

Logically,the only living claimant with the name Henry would be Prince Harry. However, he is Protestant.

Father Serge has quite a nice voice!
The Choir sounds heavenly!

Alice