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I think that the issue here is that the hierarchy of the BCC is SANCTIONING the abbreviation. That is what I find troubling. The issue here is that the Metropolitan Church of Pittsburgh is FORBIDDING the use of the fuller version of the Antiphons. There is a world of difference between allowing an abbreviation and mandating the abbreviation.
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"The issue here is that the Metropolitan Church of Pittsburgh is FORBIDDING the use of the fuller version of the Antiphons."
Actually not true. I know of one parish that had been using the full antiphons and little litanies and petitioned the bishop to continue using them and was permitted.
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"The issue here is that the Metropolitan Church of Pittsburgh is FORBIDDING the use of the fuller version of the Antiphons."
Actually not true. I know of one parish that had been using the full antiphons and little litanies and petitioned the bishop to continue using them and was permitted. Father Deacon, What parish is this? Monomakh
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So, if what you're saying is true, why has Bishop John put the brakes on a supplement for all the parishes celebrating the full Recension, or as close to it as we could get?
See, this is where I have a major problem. Why are the other parishes who were celebrating the fuller Recension now treated like step-children???
This is another reason why the RDL needs to go away -- it's still creating division, not one BIG happy family as was promised.
Now I'm really ticked. My options are to drive to Columbus for the fuller recension or go to the Orthodox Church here in town -- nice options gentlemen.
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I could not say. Perhaps the reason is they don't want to go through the expense for literally a handful of parishes. You do realize that in the entire Metropolia probably not more than 10 parishes, if it was that many, took the full Liturgy. Perhaps Bishop John isn't the one putting the brakes on? Have you talked with him? Has your parish petitioned to use them?
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So, regarding the full Liturgy and, on a nearby thread, use of Slavonic, apparently the phrase "sole liturgical text" in the green book really means: "sole liturgical text, except when it's not."
What am I missing?
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I could not say. Perhaps the reason is they don't want to go through the expense for literally a handful of parishes. You do realize that in the entire Metropolia probably not more than 10 parishes, if it was that many, took the full Liturgy. Perhaps Bishop John isn't the one putting the brakes on? Have you talked with him? Has your parish petitioned to use them? The only comment I have is "How sad is that"!!  Maybe someone here can explain why the full liturgy is so bad? I get it every Sunday and I love it. I can't imagine getting anything less... 
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So, if what you're saying is true, why has Bishop John put the brakes on a supplement for all the parishes celebrating the full Recension, or as close to it as we could get?
See, this is where I have a major problem. Why are the other parishes who were celebrating the fuller Recension now treated like step-children???
This is another reason why the RDL needs to go away -- it's still creating division, not one BIG happy family as was promised.
Now I'm really ticked. My options are to drive to Columbus for the fuller recension or go to the Orthodox Church here in town -- nice options gentlemen. This is indeed good news that the bishops are allowing parishes to pray the full Liturgy! When was this supplemental booklet published? Which bishops have signed their names to it? Do parishes have to petition individually or is the permission to take the official Ruthenian recension rubrics for the entire Church? Does anyone have a list of parishes that have already returned to the official 1942 Ruthenian Liturgy? The return of the official Liturgy with the blessings of the bishops is a major step out of the abyss of the RDL! Monomakh
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So this brings up another question for me. In the original post in this thread I was refering to the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church. There was one post answering me that the Synod had approved the ommission of the Second Antiphon. My question now is this: is this an option, or must the Second Antiphon be removed?
BTW, I just noticed in the bulletin to-day that the local UGCC parish I sometimes attend is having the DL in Church Slavonic on Christmas Day.
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BTW, I just noticed in the bulletin to-day that the local UGCC parish I sometimes attend is having the DL in Church Slavonic on Christmas Day. [/quote]
Wow, what a treat that would be to hear liturgical and folk carols sung in Slavonic on Christmas Day!
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