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This was sent to me by a friend:
If you have children or grandchildren, work with children at church, or you have neighborhood children whose parents you know, please take note of the information below and pass it along to others. Schools are distributing this book to children through the Scholastic Book Club.
The name of the book is Conversations with God.? It is devastating. Parents, churches and Christian schools need to be aware of it.
Please pay special attention not only to what your kids watch on TV, in movie theaters, on the internet, and the music they listen to, but also be alert regarding the books they read.
Two particular books are, Conversations with God and Conversations with God for Teens, written by Neale D. Walsch. They sound harmless enough by their titles alone. The books have been on the New York Times best sellers list for a number of weeks, and they make truth of the statement, 'Don't judge a book by its cover or title.'
The author purports to answer various questions asked by kids using the 'voice of God'. However, the 'answers' that he gives are not Bible-based and go against the very infallible word of God. For instance (and I paraphrase), when a girl asks the question 'Why am I a lesbian?' His answer is that she was 'born that way' because of genetics (just as you were born right-handed, with brown eyes, etc.). Then he tells her to go out and 'celebrate' her differences.
Another girls poses the question 'I am living with my boyfriend. My parents say that I should marry him because I am living in sin. Should I marry him?'
His reply is, 'Who are you sinning against? Not me, because you have done nothing wrong.'
Another question asks about God's forgiveness of sin. His reply 'I do not forgive anyone because there is nothing to forgive . There is no such! thing as right or wrong and that is what I have been trying to tell everyone, do not judge people. People have chosen to judge one another and this is wrong, because the rule is ''judge not lest ye be judged.'
Not only are these books the false doctrine of the devil, but in some instances quote (in error) the Word of God.
And the list goes on. These books (and others like it) are being sold to schoolchildren through The Scholastic Book Club, and we need to be aware of what is being fed to our children.
If you are in doubt, please check out the books.
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When I looked up the books at Amazon.com I was shocked to see that these are adult books. Why are they being sold to children? www.Amazon.com [ amazon.com] Blasphemy! Heresy! Who does this man think he is, claiming to speak directly to God?! Jesus did it, Muhammad did it, the Jewish prophets did it, but none of their Gods had the sardonic wit or raw verve of Prophet Walsch's God. Neale Donald Walsch isn't claiming to be the Messiah of a new religion, just a frustrated man who sat down one day with pen in his hand and some tough questions in his heart. As he wrote his questions to God, he realized that God was answering them... directly... through Walsch's pen. The result, far from the apocalyptic predictions or cultic eccentricities you might expect, turns out to be matter-fact, in-your-face wisdom on how to get by in life while remaining true to yourself and your spirituality.
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Hi Alice - Whoever sent you this email is a little misinformed - also about 5 years behind! Here's a link to a more correct version of the story: http://www.breakthechain.org/exclusives/dobsonwalsch.html(This site is similar to snopes.com, a good place to check out "chain e-mails" if you're not sure they're for real.) Happy New Year!
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www.breakthechain.org [ breakthechain.org] said that Dr. Dobson printed this on his website: "Dr. Dobson has expressed strong feelings regarding the book Conversations with God for Teens, which Scholastic, Inc. marketed to unsuspecting students at Christian schools and their parents in 2002. [...] To ensure that his audience knew what to expect from this marketing ploy, Dr. Dobson taped a broadcast which included information about Scholastic, Inc. and Conversations with God for Teens. The broadcast cassette, titled "Pulling Kids from Public Schools" (CT464) is available for a suggested donation of $7.00 in our online Resource Center. The e-mail message you may have seen did not originate from Focus on the Family, but represents someone else's synopsis of Dr. Dobson's comments." And furthermore, break the chain also states: In response to Dobson's request, Scholastic, Inc., agreed to stop distributing the books to Christian schools, but still sells them through other avenues. The book remains acclaimed for its frank discussions of some very tough subjects. Therefore this letter that Alice has reproduced is a summary which someone else has attributed to Dr. Dobson, nothing more. Nevetheless, we should be careful and not let the young children or teenagers view these books which are at an adult level and which have thoughts that run contrary to our Christian faith.
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The point was - this is something that has been circulating via e-mail since 2003 - so it's not exactly something "new" that no one has known about till now.
Also - may I point out that offering sometihng for sale is not quite the same as "distributing" something - by using that word, the e-mail implies that the book is being *given* to children in the schools. That's very different from having it available as one of many items for asle.
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Also - may I point out that offering sometihng for sale is not quite the same as "distributing" something - by using that word, the e-mail implies that the book is being *given* to children in the schools. That's very different from having it available as one of many items for asle. Thesit Gal, I think you make a distinction without a real difference. The fact that this book is/was being offered for sale in a catalog targeted to to schools is a defacto endorsement of its content by Scholastic and is thus intended to help makes its way into the hands of teens at school. Presumably some copies may even end up in school libraries, as many Scholastic publications do. Its title is intended to appeal to those who have some type of religious affiliation or interest, but it sounds like a Trojan horse for endorsing all sorts of immoral behavior that is approved by a "divine voice". It reminds me of the original temptation: "the moment you eat of it, you shall not die...you shall be like gods!" Just s-s-s-s-s-shows to go you that there is nothing new under the s-s-s-s-s-sun... God bless, Gordo
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This isn't the book that caused me to pull my kids out of public school, but this kind of stuff is one reason why I homeschool. The book that did it for me was one called "Tango Makes Three" about the penguins in a zoo who 'adopted' an egg (they were both boy penguins). Ick.
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I homeschooled because human secularism is the state religion and my school system discriminates against Christians on a regular basis.
I quoted C.S. Lewis in a college paper and was asked by the Jewish professor if I were trying to convert her. I explained that I simply found C.S. Lewis' books to be excellent sources for the hypothetical conditional and other conditional sentences where modal verbs were employed. Which was true.
I ended up getting my first grade lower than an A in grad school. All the other outspoken Christian students also received either A-, B+ or B grades which likewise wrecked their perfect GPAs.
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Thanks be to God for "Nihil Obstat"s and "Imprimatur"s
Shalom, Memo
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My father is about to adopt twins. He's fostering until the paperwork is finished. A few months ago one of the four-year-old girls brought home a book they picked it out from the class library. It was about making maple syrup in Vermont. He was happy to read it to the girls, but then he nearly thew it down as he saw "Lily's moms, Tracy and Gina, were very good cooks."
Dad edited the line with a sharpie and a pen, and he sent the author an e-mail.
If children are exposed to this type of activism in pre-school, I am going to worry about public school.
Terry
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