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Interesting discussions.

My Baptist friends often changed churches because they claimed, "We are not being fed. The pastor's sermons are so dry."

They equated being fed with good sermons.

They missed the whole point that Christ offered them real living food and drink in His precious Body and Blook, not just sermons on the Mount.

Sadly they were not encouraged to read John 6 and woe to the pastor who studied John 6 .. he began to sound strangely apostolic and liturgical.

Jonn,

Of course my post was an oversimplification. I'm absolutely sure that the LDS did not ever call Jesus a liar, or imply that they thought he was.

But it seem to me that they think the Church which Christ established and the Holy Spirit He sent as a guide were powerless to maintain even a remnant of the Church in the old world.

Much less that such remnant Church would be so uninspired and powerless that not even one preacher of said Church would reach the new world "to preach the Gospel to all nations" until the time of Joseph Smith.

This seems to me an example of USA-centric churchthink, as Theophan pointed out.

Have a Blessed New Year

Another thread hijacked into the realm of food.
Bob,

I never thought of that.

But, it is worse than you think.

If my understanding is correct,
you can never eat one pierogi.

Pierog is sinular.

Pierogi is plural.

Question:

If moron is singular ...

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Of course, we must never forget, there is a Catholic Bishop of Moron (Argentina)
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This post may be reason enough why the Lord separated the languages into different nations.

LOL

Do not forget Cardinal Sin of Manila

Or Father Bishop, or Father Pope

I love linguistic detours.

Of course, I am a linguist.

But those who are Apostolic and Liturgical need to become better preachers to get the dry ones to understand John 6.

And they need to start to do it outside of Liturgy.

Well, I do not wish to underestimate the time and effort put into priestly formation but i personally get worried at times when priests do not prepare their sermons; ending up preaching irrelevant things and not focusing fully on the readings given, especially the Gospel. I have experienced it and personally, I find it disgusting.

In addition to the Eucharist being the bread of life, it certainly is. But Jesus also did say that man shall not live by bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God. The Eucharist is the Bread of Life, but the sermon is just what's "written" on it. In short, to me, the sermon and the Eucharist are inseparable. Its my evangelical weakness I'd say. :p

Sadly, this is the case with my brother's family. His wife is this sort. When he came to visit last summer, he was VERY happy to be in a Byzantine Liturgy after several years absence.

Isn't that how it's pronounced in Western PA?

Didnt the Protestant Reformers assert that Jesus abandoned his church the moment it came out of the catacombs and never glanced at it again till Martin Luther happened in to this world?

Pierogi are, for me, like chocolate. I don't want one; I want a dozen at a time.

BOB

Hey, watch it if you plan to move to the Iron City. Some big guy in a bar is likely to ask you to step outside.

BOB

That is not how they put it, from what I remember. It may be how they acted.

Terry

dwight:

If you want to shut down someone who starts dumping on the Catholic and Orthodox Churches because they are from that orientation, just ask if Jesus Christ is a liar. Then tell them He promised to be with His Church until the end of the age. And this is especially troublesome to tose who take every word literally.

BOB

Ah, but they would retort that the Church is spiritual and that passage is not referring to a visible Church, but the spiritual one of all believers: those who profess Jesus Christ as Lord and are born again.

Terry

Bob,

I'm just trying to get the accent down.

Eric