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Recently I was at a event and a man showed me his doctoral thesis on how Slovakians, Western Ukrainians and Rusyns are really Polish. He went back centuries into history and he found that linguistically, sociologically and all the various forms of Literature and art existing in Slovakia and Western Ukraine today are from the Poles. Over time, the Polish language split into dialects that we call Rusyn, Slovakian, Ukrainian, but none-the-less, they are all Polish in origin. So he said that Poland should regain the land that is now Slovakia, Western Ukraine, and perhaps a part of Romania. You should have seen the way he traced all the various cultural aspects of the Slovaks, Ukrainians and Rusyns back to Polish origin. Even the various burial customs point back to Polish origin. He also said in his thesis that once Poland regains these lands they will become the equivalents to states or provinces and what he calls "Polish dialects" will be re-written back into the Polish alphabet and only allow for certain government approved words and phrases to allow a sense of "One Poland, many people." The unified language with regional gov't approved variances he claims will help the new Poland meld into the European Union and build strength throughout Europe.
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Recently I was at a event and a man showed me his doctoral thesis on how Slovakians, Western Ukrainians and Rusyns are really Polish. He went back centuries into history and he found that linguistically, sociologically and all the various forms of Literature and art existing in Slovakia and Western Ukraine today are from the Poles. Over time, the Polish language split into dialects that we call Rusyn, Slovakian, Ukrainian, but none-the-less, they are all Polish in origin. So he said that Poland should regain the land that is now Slovakia, Western Ukraine, and perhaps a part of Romania. You should have seen the way he traced all the various cultural aspects of the Slovaks, Ukrainians and Rusyns back to Polish origin. Even the various burial customs point back to Polish origin. He also said in his thesis that once Poland regains these lands they will become the equivalents to states or provinces and what he calls "Polish dialects" will be re-written back into the Polish alphabet and only allow for certain government approved words and phrases to allow a sense of "One Poland, many people." The unified language with regional gov't approved variances he claims will help the new Poland meld into the European Union and build strength throughout Europe. I have heard of the opposite happening, especially how the "Gorale" are actually Polonized Rusyns and Slovaks. Let the artillery start! FIRE! Incoming!  Ung
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Recently I was at a event and a man showed me his doctoral thesis on how Slovakians, Western Ukrainians and Rusyns are really Polish. Христос Родився! Славіти Його! Now please tell me: to which university did he submit this so-called thesis: "The Polish Free University" a la the "Ukrainian Free University in Munich????
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Recently I was at a event and a man showed me his doctoral thesis on how Slovakians, Western Ukrainians and Rusyns are really Polish. He went back centuries into history and he found that linguistically, sociologically and all the various forms of Literature and art existing in Slovakia and Western Ukraine today are from the Poles. Over time, the Polish language split into dialects that we call Rusyn, Slovakian, Ukrainian, but none-the-less, they are all Polish in origin. So he said that Poland should regain the land that is now Slovakia, Western Ukraine, and perhaps a part of Romania. You should have seen the way he traced all the various cultural aspects of the Slovaks, Ukrainians and Rusyns back to Polish origin. Even the various burial customs point back to Polish origin. He also said in his thesis that once Poland regains these lands they will become the equivalents to states or provinces and what he calls "Polish dialects" will be re-written back into the Polish alphabet and only allow for certain government approved words and phrases to allow a sense of "One Poland, many people." The unified language with regional gov't approved variances he claims will help the new Poland meld into the European Union and build strength throughout Europe. Oh, Boze Moje!  Say it ain't so! Where's the chalk! Oplatki for everyone!
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Is this a Polish joke??  Alexandr
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I think I heard a rumour (sic) that the thesis was written in Russian, but in the Old Orthography.
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What are the implications of all this, or what does it matter?
If the wildest accusations are true, what does it change?
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What are the implications of all this, or what does it matter?
If the wildest accusations are true, what does it change? Think about FYROM. The Republic of Macedonia ... is bordered by Serbia to the north, Albania to the west, Greece to the south, and Bulgaria to the east. It was admitted to the United Nations in 1993 under the provisional reference of the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM), pending resolution of a naming dispute with Greece.[2] The "naming dispute" was apparently based on historical boundaries of ancient Macedonia, a portion of which is now Greece. Concerns over ethnic tensions and a possible separatist movement in northern Greece in order to "reunify" the ancient nation . . . This idea for Poland is the same. In parts of the world where people refer to 1000 year old events as if they happened to their own parents, it is always of concern when someone constructs such a claim and produces "proof" that they are correct. Dave
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A math professor (and close family friend) once showed me how the square root of -1,(√-1=i), can have a positive integer value by judicious use of substituing the right equations. Each equation is legitimate on its own but when used in a particular order of substitution, subtle errors are introduced which yield an ultimately impossible result, √-1=+integer.
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A math professor (and close family friend) once showed me how the square root of -1,(√-1=i), can have a positive integer value by judicious use of substituing the right equations. Each equation is legitimate on its own but when used in a particular order of substitution, subtle errors are introduced which yield an ultimately impossible result, √-1=+integer. Man you're tellin' me!
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So that's why we sing "Preterp'ivyj" and other para-liturgical hymns, we are just honoring our "Polski" heritage! Pass the "Galompki" please!  Ung
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If this is true, why is it that Rusyns, Slovaks and Ukrainians have a hard time understanding Polish, as well as vice versa? I speak Slovak and Rusyn, but when I go to Poland they say that they cannot understand me. I certainly do not understand them.
I had a professor that described Polish as, "trying to listen to Elmer Fudd".
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