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#274458 01/22/08 12:15 AM
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Good story.

I have a question. Has any overzealous Caesar, Tsar, or Sultan commissioned an "iconographic style" painting of himself?

Or have any of the above ever been "iconized" as a propaganda tool?

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Sure have! Here is Ivan IV "Grozny" "Terrible".

[img]http://cache.eb.com/eb/image?id=10740&rendTypeId=4[/img]

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For some reason, the image link is not working.

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I copied the link and opened a new tab and saw the "icon" but I couldn't make it work in the forum display window.

Was there a reprisal for the "icon?" Was is "written" before or after his death?

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Those who criticized Ivan didn't stick around too long! wink

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So was the image in question created before or after his demise?
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Back to the original story, Putin ain't no Tsar. I read the article, it's all bark and no bite.

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Probably while he was alive, although no one is sure. No, Vladimir is not a Tsar. He is not bad for a president though, and would be a better choice than any of the jokers campaigning now!

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From what I have read of Ivan The Terrible I believe if he wished an icon painted of himself he would very well have made someone become willing to write an icon of him.

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Returning to the original point of the thread (such a novel idea, I know) ...

May God grant many years to the iconographer, Vladimir Grigorenko, who declined to dishonor his gift from God by using it in a manner never intended, despite the obvious commercial advantage that would have accrued to him.


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Our priest mentioned this in a sermon the week before last...

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