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This place will be real lonely after the Global Warming Police round up all you heretics & doubters . . .



hawk

It is amazing if you noticed lately, there is no - notta - none - talk of Al Gore anywhere on the news or tv. Whaz' happ'nd?

That's about what I remember growing up in the late 1970s, 1980s and early 1990s in L.A. County. I remember some winter highs in the 60s and 50s. As well, the ice cold Aleutian Winds blow down from Alaska every so many years. I remember my friends and I would walk around Pasadena making fun of the Rose Bowl tourists, wearing shorts, who thought it'd be warm. LOL.

In the past decade since I've been away my family tells me things have been obscenely warm in the winter.

Here in Philadelphia, however, this has been a VERY mild winter.

BTW, has anyone considered that global warming and Maunder Minimum may cancel each other out?

I think Mr. Brocali (sp?) has a new villian for the next James Bond movie. They could call it "Warm Finger" starring Algore as the Goracle.

CDL

I was just out cleaning about two new inches of "partly cloudy" from my walks and driveway. The temp is a chilly 10 degrees and the wind is still blowing hard. All I need to be a popsicle is a stick taped to my back--I'm frozen. Is this global warming? If so, I'd hate to be in the middle of global cooling.

BOB

The cold, harsh winter in North America this year (2008) is caused by a La Ninya.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23116484/
http://www.physorg.com/news120745994.html


In contrast, global warming is a trend that has been recorded over decades and around the world.




Contempt for global warming is not going to make it go away. Neither will projecting contempt on the most public figure involved in raising awareness about global warming. Neither will claims of a con-job or a conspiracy.

The only thing that will slow global warming is reducing the amount of pollutants that we human beings put into the atmosphere, such as CO2 and methane. The only thing that will (eventually) reverse global warming is removing those pollutants from the atmosphere -- most likely by growing lots of plants, such a trees.

If Eastern Christians actually kept the fasting rules and refrained from eating animal products on all of the fasting days, it would proportionately reduce the demand for those products. That, in turn, would reduce demand for cutting down forests for more ranch land. And that, plus going to confession for hating Al Gore, could cut down on a lot of hot air.

-- John

P.S. Fasting alone will not solve global warming, but it could solve us.

Most of what is causing global warming is human activity. And most of that activity is our own addiction to pleasuring ourselves: by driving cars everywhere, by eating enormous amounts of animal products, by having electronic devices that always on enough to respond to a remote control, etc. We have built a culture and economy of pleasuring ourselves under the title of convenience. But, it has a price: enormous demands for energy, based on burning carbon, that adds up to global warming.

However, if we practiced more restraint, we wouldn't have such an insatiable demand for pleasuring ourselves. By self-discipline and God's grace, we could overcome that part of ourselves. And then, we wouldn't balk at more energy efficient forms of transportation, eating and keeping our systems wired.

We will never learn to control global warming till we learn how to control ourselves. In both instances, we need to cool down. And fasting is a fine way to start and practice how.

My two cents.

-- John

Im sorry I very much disagree with you, the amount of polutants that we contribute to the inviroment is minimal in its affects on global warming. Read the report by the Pontifical Academy of Science, some of the top experts in the world.

That being said should we stop polluting the environment? Most definitely! It is our Christian obligation to do so. We are to be stewards of God's creation and respect His creation.
Stephanos I

Dear Father,

I think Patriarch Bartholomew, also know as the Green Patriarch, will also agree with you.

Respectfully in Christ,
Elizabeth

ROFLOL I love this last statement.

BOB

Silly comments often make me laugh as well. Al Gores behavior makes him seem like a very dishonest person. If I'm wrong I will repent. We will see.

CDL

Sorry, Harmon, but I still think that all of the hype over global warming (it was 6 degrees farenheit here in NE Pa as I came to work yesterday morning-global warming, indeed!)being the result of human activity is absolute drivel. The comments of the scientists who dissent against this view appear to be much more logical, and probable (i.e. the idea that the rise in global temperatures is primarily the result of the activity of the sun-they also see an imminent period of global cooling, based on a cooling down of the sun's activity). Their thinking is based on historical occurrence. They point out that there was a "freeze" in the 1700's, precisely at the time when the sun's activity was not as "heated" as it is today. On the other hand, the politicians (both nationally, and internationally) who are promoting the notion that WE are causing global warming are doing this for a reason. They have an agenda. It involves the creation of a "mega-government" to deal with this alleged "mega-problem". Much wailing on global warming is coming from places like the U.N. and the E.U. The agenda of these bodies has always been about global government. Al Gore has, for some time, been on record as being a globalist. The warming issue is a just a convenient vehicle for promoting the agenda. Most of the world's people like their own culture, and their own governments (at least those who aren't living under Bolshevism and other forms of tyranny). The creation of a global government would be a "hard sell" almost everywhere, if it were not for the sense that there is a "crisis" which only a global government can deal with. What is especially dangerous about all this is the notion of government which these people possess. Most of the "movers and shakers" of globalism are agnostic or atheistic, and hold the view that "rights" are not something which are inherent to mankind (or should I say "us all" )because they are given by God (who, in their minds, most likely does not exist), but they are granted by government, and may be taken away by government. Both the U.N. Declaration of Human Rights, and the old Soviet Constitution, have clauses which state things like "the right to assembly shall be granted, except where prohibited by law". What government gives, government can take away. In theory, I am not opposed to the notion of global government, if it is rooted in the values of the Gospels. But, you will note that the E.U., in putting together it's constitution, deliberately refused to acknowledge the Christian foundations of Europe (despite the protestations of Pope John Paul II, and Patriarch Bartholomew). To summarize, what Al Gore is promoting is "globaloney" with a dark agenda.

Dn. Robert

And I thought the debate was over.

Very well put Deacon Robert, my sentiments exactly. Sadly I see more and more young people in this country who have come to believe that the UN is the final authority on everything, even superceding our own Constitution. How I dream of a day when we evict the final authority from our land.

Or charge them a humungous rate of rent for the UN building that it will make our economy one of the richest in the world.
But seriously I for one would like to see the dissolution of the UN, who has outlived its usefullness and desirability. Let the games begin.
Stephanos I