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I had someone jsut tell me yesterday that the monastery of Taize in France is the only place on earth where Catholics, Protestants, and Orthodox Christians all worship together, including sharing the Eucharist. There was a movie presented at a church in my hometown that purported to establish this fact, allegedly showing Orthodox bishops and priests serving along with Catholics and Protestants.
Is there aAnyone familiar with this place who can give me some clarification?
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They worship together but do not inter-commune. They lead a community life that includes a type of "Divine Office" wherein they come together for morning, daytime and evening prayers. At the time of Eucharistic celebrations, each community retreats to the chapel of their background, and then comes together afterwards for more prayer. This has been mischaracterized by some as intercommunion and by others as some sort of "tandem" or joint celebrations. In fact it is neither. I know that they have had at leasta few Romainian Orthodox affiliates... But I am not certain it is a large party... Eastern prayer, chant, and iconography has been incorporated into the life of the community. The founder, Brother Roger, professed Catholicism and came into communion with the Catholic Church. He was killed by a mentally imbalanced woman who stabbed him in 2005, his successor (whom he had pre-designated) is Brother Alois, also a Catholic. I have a lot of respect for what they have set out to accomplish. wiki article [ en.wikipedia.org] Taize homepage [ taize.fr] Great photos [ overgrownpath.com] Orthodox at Taize [ taize.fr]
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I've heard about Taize and I really like the work they're attempting to do!
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They lead a community life that includes a type of "Divine Office" wherein they come together for morning, daytime and evening prayers. At the time of Eucharistic celebrations, each community retreats to the chapel of their background, and then comes together afterwards for more prayer. SS: You've confirmed what I had heard many years ago about Taize, but needed it confirmed by someone more familiar with the present reality there. What threw me was the insistence that eveeryone communed together and I never thought that this was the case. Thanks. BOB
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What threw me was the insistence that everyone communed together and I never thought that this was the case. Well they do commune at the same time... just not together!  Interestingly, I have heard that the Prostestant brothers do sometimes join the Catholic brothers for Eucharistic adoration... Levels of communion are achieved... just spiritually at this time. Again, I admire what they are setting out to do. If there was more of THAT, than we would probably all be in a little better shape!
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What threw me was the insistence that everyone communed together and I never thought that this was the case. Well they do commune at the same time... just not together! Interestingly, I have heard that the Prostestant brothers do sometimes join the Catholic brothers for Eucharistic adoration... Levels of communion are achieved... just spiritually at this time. Again, I admire what they are setting out to do. If there was more of THAT, than we would probably all be in a little better shape! What about the Canons that PROHIBIT praying with Heretics?
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They got tossed with same canons that prohibit going to Jewish physicians, but hey maybe you can write Pope Benedict and ask him to reinstate those.
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What about the Canons that PROHIBIT praying with Heretics? What about the canons that: demand bishops hold a synod every 6 months? forbid clergy from serving in the military? (Chaplains??) forbid over-frequent bathing? forbid more than one bishop in a city? Careful what judgement you invite when you start to demand things be measured by ancient canons.
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What about the Canons that PROHIBIT praying with Heretics? What about the canons that: demand bishops hold a synod every 6 months? forbid clergy from serving in the military? (Chaplains??) forbid over-frequent bathing? forbid more than one bishop in a city? Careful what judgement you invite when you start to demand things be measured by ancient canons. Yes--Beware of shooting canons!
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Beware of Cannon Falls (my hometown), actually, I love Cannon Falls, nevermind.
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Don't Taize me, Bro!
Or have I been misinformed?
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I really don't know enough about Taize to comment on it, but a lot of it makes me...nervous. I know a lot of traditional-leaning Catholics do not like it *at all* and positively FREAKED OUT when Cardinal Ratzinger gave Brother Roger Communion at Pope John Paul II's Requiem Mass, even if he was actually a convert to Catholicism.
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Oh, but I think they were mad because at the time it wasn't common knowledge that Brother Roger had converted, so they thought +Ratzinger was giving Communion to a Protestant.
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I really don't know enough about Taize to comment on it, but a lot of it makes me...nervous. I know a lot of traditional-leaning Catholics do not like it *at all* and positively FREAKED OUT when Cardinal Ratzinger gave Brother Roger Communion at Pope John Paul II's Requiem Mass, even if he was actually a convert to Catholicism.
Alexis Let us see, Brother Roger + converted to the Catholic faith, + made certain his Catholic brothers always had the Mass celebrated for them even before that, + he has encouraged Protestants around the world to reconsider communal live and liturgical prayer, + he has introduced untold thousands to iconography and eastern chant in the elements he introduced, + he had eucharistic adoration for Catholics, and many Protesants would join + has pioneered a style of music and prayer... These critics... What do they do? What do they think he should have done?
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Don't Taize me, Bro!
Or have I been misinformed?
CDL ROFLMBO! Good one CDL! I enjoy their music.
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