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Originally Posted by theophan
In the Church, when we can no longer communicate, we can no longer pass along the Fatih as we have received it neither adding to it or subtracting from it as we are mandated to do by our Baptism.
Wonderful post Bob. Thank you and God bless.

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But no, college students would not be thrown off by "mankind."


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The educational system must be better in Ohio than in southeastern Kansas. But then again, southeastern Kansas is often called "the appalachia of Kansas."

And neither are the college students in Kansas thrown off by the use of "mankind"; we have some bright ones to allay the above impression.

When I specifically brought this topic up in my Benedictine College (yes, in Kansas) class, the opinion was unanimous against specific use of gender neutral language in any liturgy of the Church. Suprisingly (perhaps not for some) the strongest opinions against were from the female students; several actually said they felt their intelligences insulted and thought the whole thing to be pandering rather than a serious spiritual endeavor. It appears their opinions may not be that far from the Holy See.

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I guess a update/correction is needed for my Douay Rheims Bible with references to "sons of God & sons of the living God"



1 Genesis 6: 2 The sons of God seeing the daughters of men, that they were fair, took to themselves wives of all which they chose.

2 Genesis 6: 4 Now giants were upon the earth in those days. For after the sons of God went in to the daughters of men, and they brought forth children, these are the mighty men of old, men of renown.

3 Job 1 : 6 Now on a certain day when the sons of God came to stand before the Lord, Satan also was present among them.

4 Job 2 :1 And it came to pass, when on a certain day the sons of God came, and stood before the Lord, and Satan came among them, and stood in his sight,

5 Job 38 :7 When the morning stars praised me together, and all the sons of God made a joyful melody?

6 Psalms 88 :7 For who in the clouds can be compared to the Lord: or who among the sons of God shall be like to God?

7 John 1 :12 But as many as received him, he gave them power to be made the sons of God, to them that believe in his name.

8 Romans 5 : 2 By whom also we have access through faith into this grace, wherein we stand, and glory in the hope of the glory of the sons of God.

9 Romans 8:14 For whosoever are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

10 Romans 8 :16 For the Spirit himself giveth testimony to our spirit, that we are the sons of God.11 Romans 8:19 For the expectation of the creature waiteth for the revelation of the sons of God.

12 Romans 8: 23 And not only it, but ourselves also, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption of the sons of God, the redemption of our body.

13 1 John 3:1 Behold what manner of charity the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called, and should be the sons of God. Therefore the world knoweth not us, because it knew not him.

14 1 John 3:2 Dearly beloved, we are now the sons of God; and it hath not yet appeared what we shall be. We know, that, when he shall appear, we shall be like to him: because we shall see him as he is.

15 Osee 1:10 And the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, that is without measure, and shall not be numbered. And it shall be in the place where it shall be said to them: You are not my people: it shall be said to them: Ye are the sons of the living God.

16 Romans 9:26 And it shall be, in the place where it was said unto them, You are not my people; there they shall be called the sons of the living God.

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James,

Please note that all the OT examples of sons of God except Osee are references to the angels.

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Noted and thank you...

I must apologize for my senior moment blush, I just noticed that this thread was within the RDL and I'm not qualified to comment on it, and besides there is enough of headache, bickering and discussion elsewhere within the Latin Rite to keep me busy...

I have no objection to my posted comments being removed...

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James,

Not apology needed. I think it sheds some light on the theological implications of the title.

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