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Sadly Islam is a death cult, bent on world domination. That is what history tells us. That is what statistics tell us.

And, after all, that is what many Muslims tell us!

Why is that so hard to understand?

When talking about certain people who are Muslims, of course, there are those who love God and their neighbor, but will not lift a finger, even in a free society, to dispute with those who believe your choices are Islam or death/Dhimmitude.

All in all, lets just believe what Muslims themselves right about Islam, what statistics tell us about Islam, and that history tells us about Islam.

Islam is a cult, bent on death, destruction and domination by violence.

After all, how many Muslim missionaries have there been in history WITHOUT weapons...oh yeah, NONE.

Im am NOT making any statement by the following but found it very interesting.
Today we had a presentation about the vision by Juan Deigo of Our Lady of Guadalupe.

I found it interesting that the BVM was standing on a crescent moon which was for the people of that time a symbol of evil.
And that the name Guadalupe is an arabic compositon from Spain, meaning Guada = River and Lupe = Light.

Stephanos I

Our Lady of Guadalupe pray for us and deliver us from all oppression, evil and acts of violence.

What is the percentage of the worlds' conflicts that involve muslims? Isn't is something like 85+%?

So much for the "religion of peace".

sounds dodgy. arabic for 'light' is 'nour'/'nur', i believe.

Yes, "Noor/Nour/Nur" are some of the words for "light".

Using the Nicene Creed as an example, lets examine:

"Light from light, true God from true God..." is recited in Arabic as "noorin min noor, Ilaahin (h)aq min Ilaahin (h)aq..."

8 Die in Shooting at Jerusalem Seminary

http://news.aol.com/world

Click on the link. This story is less than two hours old. The celebrations by the Palestinians color my reaction. Anyone who would go to a religious house of worship and celebrate terrorist acts against people with prayers of thanksgiving . . . !!! Anyone who would pass out sweets to others driving by in cars to celebrate such a horrible terrorist act . . . !!!

Rather reinforces the bloodthirsty verses found in the Koran that these people use to justify vioence against Christians and Jews. That's why, for me, the calls to see these people as part of the Abrahamic faiths are pure hollow posturing.

BOB

I have not yet read the Qur'an, though I still have my free copy from CAIR (they were giving them out). There was a verse about dissent I saw in one of the books, would this mean that a lay-Muslim would not have the freedom to critically read the Qur'an?

Let's say, for example, that there is this one lay-Muslim who lives in a village dominated by radicals. He is well read and knows the Qur'an back and forth, but comes to disagreement with the interpretations or rhetoric that surrounds him. Would he have to play the actor to save his life?

If he were a Christian in a Western medieval fiefdom, I can't imagine he would receive the same treatment from those he dissents with.

Terry

Saying they sprang fromt he Abrahamic Faith is not the same as sayin they are peaceful.

That said, Radical Islam is not a measure of all Muslims, and nto all are Radical Muslims.

I can think of happenings during the reformation where people were driven out of towns, burned at stakes, and suffered other horrors, at the hands of supposed "christians".

The English martyr, Saint Margaret Clitherow, was "pressed to death" on Good Friday, 25 March 1586, at York. My understanding of this was that she lay down and large stones were piled upon her until she was crushed by the weight.

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Islam, or course, rejects the Divinity of Christ. They say he is a prophet, but not the the Son of God.

They are not supposed to have images, or the thought that earthly images can represent Holy things.

Yet they get bent out of shape by images of Mohamed.

In denying the Incarnation, and in denying any images, don't they deny that people are made in the image of God?

Therefore people can be abused, enslaved, and casually destroyed.

This seems to me to be the root of the problem, a lack of respect for life. Muslim opposition to abortion notwithstanding.

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God be thanked, I am not worthy of so good a death as this.

- Saint Margaret, when advised of her sentence

I die for the love of my Lord Jesu.

- Saint Margaret, when asked to confess her crimes before execution

The reformation was not medieval.

You are correct, but it wasn't an improvement in human relations.

The people of the Reformation learned the things they did from their history.

It was a time of polarization, a hard time where sons warred with their fathers, and brothers with their brothers.

There were deep roots that led to the Reformation, true.

The village I had in mind was more of the type imagined from Chaucer. There are elements of harshness, like a depiction of the persecution of the Flemish people; but the harshness was sporadically focused.

Terry