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Dear Ray,

I fail to see how such sentiments are helpful in our public discourse. They do not help the prolife cause one bit.

And Scripture enjoins us to honor our civil leaders. We are to pray for those in leadership.

Such cavalier opinions might make us feel righteous, but are of no value in changing people's hearts and minds.


Blessings,


Lance

He was a serial killer.


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Looks like she's won Ohio. Texas isn't far behind. God help us!

When she sets a goal for herself and binds her self-worth into its success, she can be persistent.

She did not take as decisive of a electorate gain as the headlines suggest. In Texas, she was eight delegates ahead of Obama and in Vermont she was three behind, but in Ohio she was ahead 24 delegates. All in all, she gained 35 delegates. http://election.cbsnews.com/campaign2008/d_delegateScorecard.shtml

Is that as decisive as some would claim? She lags behind Obama in the total delegate count. It may be that the DNC Convention in August will determine the victor. Normal delegates don't "have" to vote who they are pledged to, and superdelegates remain a wildcard.

Terry

"But they did not receive Him, because His face was set for the journey to Jerusalem. And when His disciples James and John saw this, they said, "Lord, do You want us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them, just as Elijah did?" But He turned and rebuked them, and said, "You do not know what manner of spirit you are of. For the Son of Man did not come to destroy men's lives but to save them."- Luke 9.53-56 NKJV

I agree we do not have to like her or what she does and I personally find it sickening that she will probably be our next president and I pray for all of those who are having martial relationships outside of marriage and or with no intent or acceptance that a human life may be formed from it. I pray for all of the unloved children growing in thier mothers womb who will never make it to thier first birthday and to all of the mothers who mourn and weep and long for that child who will never be able to adopt it. But we have to try to love her and to forgive her it is hard to do but it is what we are supposed to do. Even Satan is loved by God.

I put that quote, "If a mother can kill her own child, what is left for others" on my bio for a chess website and the administrators banned me from playing on their server.

The ban is still in effect, though I don't plany online chess anymore.

Terry

"But we have to try to love her and to forgive her it is hard to do but it is what we are supposed to do. Even Satan is loved by God."

A Hillary supporter might read this and believe you're comparing her to Satan. =)

It will be a challenge to love her as commander-in-chief.

Terry

Terry,

I understand what you are saying, it is tough for me to pray for some politicians, too. I am glad that the prayer books have blank spaces for us to just sort of "drop their names in the blank space," it makes it easier to pray for politicians who I vigorously disagree with. The prayers of the Church and the Holy Spirit help to me to pray for people I feel I do not like.

One time, this evangelical friend of mine at work, who also happened to be a strong Republican, told me about his attempts at witnessing to co-workers. In conveying the power of Christ's love and sacrifice, he told our co-workers that even Hitler could be saved if he accepted Christ in his last hour. I told him "how can they believe your example about Hitler, when you talk so hatefully about Bill Clinton?" (this was in the 1990's).

My point in this thread is simply that all people are made in the image of God. I do not see that I as a follower of Christ should express hate for a civic leader, but rather pray for them. "For the anger of man worketh not the justice of God." - James 1.20 DRB. I still can prophetically denounce evil policies or public behavior.

That is all I have to say about it.

Blessings,

Lance

Forgive yes, tolerate NO! Satan will have willing representatives(I believe they are already there) in the Whitehouse if Obama or Clinton are elected. I do not know enough about McCain to say whether or not I will vote for him. However, ANYONE who would support the slaughter of the unborn does not deserve to hold any elected office. People who are truy 'pro-Life' need to speak out and denounce these wicked pro-abortionists for who they really are. Hillary and her husband should be tried and punished for crimes against humanity!

I find it hard to "hate" anyone who wants that job. Notice how awfully old and tired everyone looks after four years at the helm? Of course, there are some people with whom I have serious moral and philisophic differences. Sometimes the market place of ideas starts to sound a bit like a school yard of old, with bullies and cheap shots and all those trappings. That is definitely to be avoided.

Well said, Annie.

Shouldn't it be "BTK" instead of "B2K"?

As in Bind, Torture, Kill.

Dennis Ryder, of Kansas.

Now in Detention.

When I initially looked for "B2K" I got too many music references. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B2K

Terry