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Halia12 #281465 03/05/08 10:51 AM
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Slava Isusu Christu! (Glory be to God!)
Slavite Jeho! (Glory Forever)

Whay are you changing this greeting?????
This is what drives us Cradle Orthodox crazy- when changes are made to our time honored traditions.

Halia:
Relax. I am sure Tim didn't mean to cause you offense. By the way, tradition is fine but loving your neighbor is more important
Einar

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Originally Posted by Orest
Yeah, here is the proper greeting & please stop changing things.:

"Slava Isusu Christu" = "Glory to Jesus Christ"

Response: "Slava na Viky" = "Glory Forever"


Orest:
Please see my reply Halia. The same applies to you I would think.
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My brothers and sisters ... enough ... now!

The purpose of this thread was a request for prayer. Prayer comes in time-honored and glorified words, passed down to us through generations, from the mouths of Saints, hierarchs, and simple persons whose names even our hallowed traditions have lost.

Prayer also comes spontaneously, from one's deep-felt emotional response to a blessing from God or a trial visited upon us from God, from a desire or need to communicate with God in the most personal of ways - using one's own words and thoughts.

And, sometimes, prayer derives from some combination of those two forms - with neither the intent nor the effect of disrespecting spirituality, tradition, or praxis.

Have you not ever listened to a child pray? ... composing from deep within his heart, his mind, his soul. Can one not, as an adult, emulate that spontaneity, that absolute purity of spiritual emotion? Did not Our Lord encourage us to be as little children? He also said that when we pray, we should pray "Our Father, ..." - but we have not constrained ourselves in these two centuries since to that solitary prayer.

Never criticize that someone prays; that they do is, without question, a joyful noise unto the Heavens and I doubt muchly that God has deputed any of the angelic host to keep tabs on adherence to or deviation from formulaic script, the Words of Institution or other Sacramental forms aside (and, even then, one cannot deny the possibility that He can, if He so chooses, use oekonomia to right innocent error or supply omission).

Prayers for Einar in his discernment and a prayer that all will recollect our prayers in this season asking and granting forgiveness.

Many years,

Neil


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Halia & Orest:

I ask you for your forgiveness in my nasty post to the both of you. It is a fact that I need to work on my temper & I am sorry if I have caused you any offense. Even when I refrain from responding straight away to a post that annoys me I sometimes still go off with an uncharitable comment.

Neil. Thanks for your post regarding the whole mess, I am sorry that it took you to make me take a look at myself.

I have talked to Father Mark and I will be writing a letter this evening to Bishop Moskal requesting a change in Rite.

May you all have a blessed Pascha

In Christ:
Einar

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