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#283662 03/21/08 08:48 PM
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is there a traditional structure for when catechumens enter the church in the Byzantine rite, such as the easter vigil on holy saturday?

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for non Roman Catholics I would guess so. They recite the litany of the catechumens now, so I would imagine they have Confirmations/Baptisms/Profession of Faith/First Communions on Holy Saturday or another designated day for reception of new members.
For Roman Catholics it usually is going to the parish for a long time and then getting a letter from the RC bishop and the Byzantine Catholic bishop for a transfer of Rite, which is a statistical thing and really I think they only sacrament you can't receive if you didn't transfer status to the Byzantine Catholics is Holy Orders.

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Yes.

It is pretty standard to accept catechumens sometime between Lazarus Saturday (sometimes so that the newly illumined may fully participate in Holy Week) and Paschal Vigil.

See your local Orthodox priest if interested.

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for non Roman Catholics I would guess so. They recite the litany of the catechumens now, so I would imagine they have Confirmations/Baptisms/Profession of Faith/First Communions on Holy Saturday or another designated day for reception of new members.

In the Latin Rite, the two traditional days to baptize catechumens were: the Easter Vigil and the Pentecost Vigil. However, since 1962 the ceremonies of the Pentecost Vigil (which mirrored those of the Easter Vigil) have been abolished. So that leaves just the Easter Vigil.

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Well, it is not that the Pentecost Vigil was abolished.

We still have a Pentecost Vigil service, but it is now to the Pentecost Day service what the Vigil for the Nativity is to the Nativity Day service.

The idea is that nothing in the Liturgical Calendar should compare to the the Easter Vigil.

That being said, Vigils fall more into the realm of the Liturgy of the Hours and we still have them there..... somewhere.... now, if I could only remember where did I put those....

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Well, it is not that the Pentecost Vigil was abolished.

We still have a Pentecost Vigil service, but it is now to the Pentecost Day service what the Vigil for the Nativity is to the Nativity Day service.

Not sure about the Novus Ordo, but in the Traditional Latin Mass the ceremonies for the Pentecost Vigil (i.e. the prophecies, procession to the font, the litany, etc.) were abolished. The only thing left is the Mass. As well, it is optional for this Mass to be said in the evening so as to fulfill the Sunday obligation. The importance behind having these ceremonies at the Pentecost Vigil was that this feast not only celebrates the descent of the Holy Ghost, but also the birth of our Church. This is why many baptisms used to be performed at the Pentecost Vigil and why the week after Pentecost is an Ember Week and traditional time for ordinations.


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