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I am sorry that all UGCC parishes don't chant the Liturgy in English. In my parish and the one around us do. We use the Galatian chant with the English translation. I suggest to other UGCC's if their Liturgy in English isn't being chanted just use the Ukrainian melody and use the English translation. I would suggest that you speak your pastor about it and say that it is our custom to chant the Liturgy and it would make it much more prayerful that we would chant the Liturgy.
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I think you meant "Galician"  although the musician in me would love to know how the Galatians chanted, too.  Yours, hal
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I apologize for that typo. I stand corrected.
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No apology required. I liked it.
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I have only experienced English recited DL's at Latinzed parishes like mine.
You won't see it at more traditional parishes.
Another observation about the subject is that parishes that do recited DL's are ones with only a small English speaking crowd and the main litgurgical/linguistic/cultural focus is for the Ukrainian ethnic core of the parish.
Just my two cents...
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I thought I would dig up this thread to see if there has been any progress in this area. Anyone care to comment?
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Forgive me; I've never attended a recited DL. How do they do the litanies w/o chant? Like the Roman Catholic litaniesin the Novus Ordo? -------
Western Orthodoxy Blog [westernorthodox.blogspot.com]
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They are just recited. No singing by the priest, and the laity recite the responses.
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"I have regularly attended divine liturgies at Ukrainian Greek Catholic Churches my entire life, including in Canada, the United States, France, England, Germany, Italy, and Ukraine. Believe it or not, I have never heard the divine liturgy in any other language than Ukrainian. I have been to weddings where the vows have been in English or French, but no more than that..."
No language other than Ukrainian? Not even Church Slavonic?
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The UGCC parish near (Bristol, PA) me has two sung DLs in English--one on Saturday evening and one Sunday morning. These are the services that get the most people. There is a sung DL in Ukrainian, but only about 10 people attend. As for recited liturgies, I only heard one once there and the priest apologized to the congregation beforehand that he wasn't able to get chanters that day (it was a weekday).
However, I once attended a UGCC parish out in Lansdale, PA that had only two liturgies: one on Saturday evening, one on Sunday morning, and both in English and recited, not sung.
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It's been a long time, but at the two I've been to - St. Joseph's and St. Nicholas - both in Chicago; I believe the liturgy was sung. It was definitely in English at both. I stopped by the Easter Bazaar at a UC near us recently and was talking to one of the ladies there. She said the Sunday morning liturgy was accompanied by the choir and nearly all in Ukrainian. She said the Saturday night liturgy was in English and only about a half hour long. I'm guessing it might be recited.
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Bless, Father, You'll be a long while waiting that answer. He hasn't posted in about 3.5 years Many years, Neil
"One day all our ethnic traits ... will have disappeared. Time itself is seeing to this. And so we can not think of our communities as ethnic parishes, ... unless we wish to assure the death of our community."
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Spot on Neil Hritzko [ whose post was quoted by Asian Pilgrim ] last posted in 2004
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A Niall, a chara liom,
I shall wait quite happily - in fact the longer the better!
An tAth Serge
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