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Hello, I was wondering if anyone can point me to where I can find text, mp3s, or buy books and cds of the DL in Hungarian. Heck even Roman Catholic missals in Hungarian would be welcomed. I checked ebay but had no luck.

Also out of curiosity, dose anyone know what style of chant Hungarian (not Ruthenian or Slovak) Catholics use? Is it similar to that used in Slovakia or the eparchy of Mukachevo?

Thanks

Hello Kahless,

I was with the US pilgrimage group that was in Uzhorod last November for the 60th anniversary of the martyrdom of Blessed Theodore Romzha. I was making video recordings of all the services I attended. One of the days during the trip the group drove across the border to the Marian Shrine at Mariapocs in Hungary and the local Greek Catholic bishop, along with the US bishops leading the pilgrimage, served a Divine Liturgy in the church there. I think that about 60-70% was in Hungarian with Church Slavonic and English (an American deacon served and did the litanies in English).

I had hoped to have that video footage edited into an OLTV program by now, but have not had the time to finish it. If you PM me your mailing adress (or send to my personal email: jackfigel@verizon.net) I could send you an unedited DVD of the raw footage I shot, or I could let you know when I have the finished show done. It may not be complete (I only had one camera going), but it's at least something.

Jack Figel

There is a bookshop attached (spiritually - it's about a block away) to the Greek-Catholic co-Cathedral (the actual Cathedral is in Hajdudorog) in Nyiregyhaza, in northeastern Hungary. The shop sells liturgical books and popular prayer-books in Hungarian and when I was last there they were also selling a good selection of nice casette tapes of choirs from Hungary, from Transcarpathia and so forth.

You might try writing and asking them what they have and for what prices - but I don't promise that they can read English. After all, if it's not in Hungarian, how important could it be?

Fr. Serge

Nyiregyhaza...isn't that where the Greek Catholic Seminary is as well???

Chris

X. B.

If I remember my history correctly the Divine Liturgy were put in in the Hungarian Language when Protestants there had to convert to Catholicism, and chose the Greek Catholic Church.

Yes, but they converted to Catholicism out of their own free will and found Byzantine Catholicism to be more to their taste. Hungarian language was also very much encourged for liturgical use by the decendants of Rusyns who had been Magyarized.

I believe that Hungarian Greek Catholic parishes in the United States are part of the Ruthenian eparchies, and in Canada are part of the Ukrainian eparchies. Does anyone know if any of these parishes might still use some Hungarian?

God bless and keep you....

Aren't the Maripoch Fathers in NJ under the omophor of the Eparchy of Passaic? Might be worthwhile contacting them or trying to find a parish that is Hungarian and calling/writing them.

As a side, myself I'd love to find a copy of a book/booklet with the Liturgy in Hungarian.

Dan

Christ is Risen!

Yes, the Hungarian parishes in the U.S. are part of the Ruthenian Byzantine Catholic Church. In Canada, I believe, they are part of the Slovak Byzantine Catholic Church, and not the Ukrainians.

There are very few Hungarian parishes left in the U.S.

St. John�s in Cleveland was Hungarian when it was located on Buckeye Rd. The parish was formed in 1892. That mega-neighborhood was Hungarian for many decades, with Hungarian stores, churches, newspapers, radio stations and many cultural activities available. Then during the 1960�s, the Hungarians moved to the suburbs. That move was essentially caused by inner city problems, and the Hungarian concentration in that neighborhood was dispersed throughout the area. The Hungarians then became a small minority of whatever area they moved to, and the Hungarian character was lost.

Eventually the parish moved to suburban Solon, but was never able to regain the Hungarian character. The parish is small and struggling today, while the old Hungarian Gospel Book sits unused in the sacristy.

I will always remember the great celebrations of the past. Unfortunately, our people today will not share those same memories.

Deacon El

Annunciation of the Mother of God Byzantine Catholic Church in Homer Glen, IL once had a sizable Hungarian presence. Their website says that the Hungarians left for a Hungarian parish of the Latin Rite.

Saint Mary Protector Byzantine Catholic Church in Kingston, PA I believe was founded by Hungarian immigrants. I do not know how Hungarian the parish is anymore.

God bless and keep you....

There was at one time a Magyar Greek Catholic Parish in Chicago--SS. Peter and Paul's-- and a Croatian one (also SS. Peter and Paul's ), both now long gone

In the 75th Anniversary booklet of the Ruthenian Metropolia, for the Kingston parish it says:

"...These Subcarpathian Rusins held a great devotion for their Byzantine (Greek) Catholic Church..."

No mentioning of this parish being Hungarian.

Ung

Ung,

If I'm not mistaken, I believe the first priestof the Kingston parish was Ukrainian Catholic, Father Zenon Lachowich. According to the parish history of St. Michael Ukr. Catholic Church in Shenandoah, PA, published in 1984:

"Father Wolanski began organizing the parish in Kingston, PA. On March 31, 1887, Metropolitan Sembratovich sent Rev. Zenon Lachowich to assist Fr. Wolanski. Within half a year Fr.Zenon was transferred to Kingston, PA. He died suddenly in Wilkes Barre, PA on Nov. 4, 1887 and was buried in St. Michael's Cemetery, Shenandoah, PA."

Oddly enough, there is no marker on Fr. Zenon's gravesite. A stone chapel was built over his grave, but no mention of his name or a marker for him there.

Dan

Yes, most of the Subcarpathian Rusyn Greek Catholic Churches were served by those pioneering priests who just happen to be Galician. That's how it was when the first 10 churches or so were formed in Eastern PA.

Ung

Anyone who wants a historical account of how Hungarian was introduced into the Liturgy should read Cyril Korolevsky's classic Living Languages in Catholic Worship - the chapter on Hungarian is tragicomic. [Here's a brief sample: "the petition to Rome, drawn up in a rococo Latin such as only Hungarians know how to write . . ."]

By the way, there is another set of Hungarian translations produced largely by Archpriest Feriz Berki of the Moscow Patriarchate's deanery in Hungary.

Fr. Serge