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http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2008/03/saudi-expert-if-pope-wants-churches-in.htmlSaudi Expert: If Pope wants churches in Saudi Arabia, he must recognize Muhammad Interreligious "dialogue", anyone? But then, why would the Saudis bother to allow us a church when they've got complete freedom to set up mosques all over Europe and the United States? From the Pakistani Christian Post: Saudi Arabia: No churches unless prophet Mohammed recognised, says expert
Riyadh: March 29, 2008.No churches should be permitted in Saudi Arabia, unless Pope Benedict XVI recognised the prophet Mohammed, according to a Middle East expert.
While Saudi mediators are working with the Vatican on negotiations to allow places of religious worship, some experts believe it will not occur without this recognition.
Anwar Ashiqi, president of the Saudi centre for Middle East strategic studies, endorsed this view in an interview on the site of Arab satellite TV network, al-Arabiya on Thursday.
"I haven taken part in several meetings related to Islamic-Christian dialogue and there have been negotiations on thisissue," he said.
"It would be possible to launch official negotiations to construct a church in Saudi Arabia only after the Pope and all the Christian churches recognise the prophet Mohammed."
"If they don`t recognise him as a prophet, how can we have a church in the Saudi kingdom?" Ashiqi`s comments came after a declaration launched by the papal nuncio of the Persian Gulf, the archbishop Mounged El-Hachem, at the opening of the first Catholic church in Qatar last week.
The prelate had announced the launch of "treaties to construct a church in Saudi Arabia where it is banned to practise whatever religion they want outside Islam".
El-Hachem estimated three to four million Christians in the Saudi kingdom who want to have a church.
A member of Saudi Arabia`s Consultative Council, Abdelaziz al-Thinani, rejected the prelate`s claims saying that there were no Christians among the Saudis who were all Muslims.
"Those few Christians do not reside in the country permanently, they come and go," he said. He denied there were four million Christians in the kingdom and said the issue of human rights should not be used to call for the construction of a Christian church.
Most of Saudi Arabia`s Christians are foreign workers. There are 8.2 million foreign workers in a country of 25.6 million people according to a report by the Saudi Labour Ministry.
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Yeah, THAT'S gonna happen. ::rolls eyes::
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Who better than Pope Benedict (yeah!) to correct their erroneous understanding of Christianity.My guess is they wouldn't be very open to Fr. Zakarias.
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We Christians recognize Muhammad... as the Prophet of the Muslims, not of the Christians.
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We Christians recognize Muhammad... as the Prophet of the Muslims, not of the Christians. Oh please.... I would think that the only kind of prophet we could recognize Muhummad as being is a false prophet. There have been plenty of those in history and there will doubtless be plenty more. Outside of the Antichrist to be revealed at the end of time, Muhummad does seem to be the false prophet with the largest following. There, I've done it. Lost the 'PC Spokesman of the Year' Award again. Sometimes you just have to point out that the Emperor has no clothes.  Fr David Straut
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FATHER DAVID:
Father bless!!
I'm right behind you to back you up. I've been taught that the Holy Transfiguration's message to all of us was that the age of the Patriarchs and the age of the Prophets had come to an end--Jesus spoke with Moses and Elijah and when it was all over He was there by Himself.
Thre are no more prophets after Jesus Christ. He is the end of the ages and the beginning of the age to come that is without end. To Him be glory now and evr and unto ages of ages.
In Christ,
BOB
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I wonder when they are going to say they will only sell oil to us if we convert to Islam.
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I wonder when they are going to say they will only sell oil to us if we convert to Islam.
Viking I don't see that happening any time soon. Saudi Arabia certainly does love those US greenbacks that have made it such a wealthy land. The bin Ladens were able to ride the tide on that score. No, they were not oil men, they were in construction... But were they undertaking vast building projects for sand-box sand tycoons? No, they built for the oil-wealthy who paid them in oil-dollars. Interestingly, I have never heard of jihadists calling for a cut off of oil... Why would they? They like the cash too.
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There is enough oil elsewhere in the world that we can and should tell them to stuff it! Of course in a totally Christian and ambivilant way.  Stephanos I
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This Pope just baptized a muslim so I doubt he will do it! I would rather drive a horse and buggy than give that false prophet any glory!
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Dear Father David,
Another voice in support of you. Recognize Mohammed? As what? A heresiarch? A pseudo-visionary? A syncretist who had the nerve to palm off his plagiarism as a "new revelation"?
Meanwhile, although I generally endorse freedom of religion, perhaps there should be an exception - Mohammedanism. Until the countries which regard this religion as their fundamental law grant unequivocal freedom of religion to others (including Jews and Christians) and recognize the absolute right of Mohammedans to abandon Mohammed and join whatever religion they please, we should advocate laws against Mohammedanism in our countries, close all the mosques, and offer those who feel that this is discriminatory against them free one-way plane tickets to the Mohammedan country of their choice and preference. In particular, Turkey should not be permitted any association with the European Union until and unless Turkey apologizes - thoroughly - to the Armenians and the Greeks (the Turks were responsible for the first "ethnic cleansing" of the 20th century, as Hitler did not hesitate to point out), return Agia Sophia to Christians as a functioning place of Christian worship, and make it clear that Christians are welcome to live and preach Christianity in Turkey.
We entreat the Lord to deliver us from the tyranny of the Hagarenes and to restore the reign of Christian Kings!
Fr. Serge
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Dear Fr. Serge,
Father bless!
I would add my own people, the Syriac speaking Christians {Syriacs, Assyrians and Chaldeans} to the list of people that it should apologize to.
In Him,
Anthony
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My friend had a response to this: 'YES, Saudi brothers, we do recognize Mohammed--as a demon'!  ( somehow I don't think that would bode well with them ) 
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My friend had a response to this: 'YES, Saudi brothers, we do recognize Mohammed--as a demon'!
(somehow I don't think that would bode well with them ) ALICE: We may be the targets of the next riots in the Middle East. But what these people have to learn is that we value our free speech and we are willing to defend our right to it, not only against those who are politically correct, but also against all bigots wherever they come from and under what cloak they cover themselves. In our dialogue with them we ought also to press the question of what religion Muhammad was prior to his establishment of this hybrid he termed Islam. That's one that drives them crazy. BOB
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