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This really concerns me .

Does anyone remember the turmoil over Lifeteen Masses - when they stood round the Altar ?

And were told to stop all this - they had to abide by the norms for the Liturgy ?

So how come that the NCW are allowed to 'do their own thing "

Not only that I had always understood that the local Parish was a community - not with the NCW it seems .:(

Christ is Risen!1 Indeed He is Risen!!

Isn't it interesting taht all these "innovations" are really the same old heresies dressed up in new clothing, but still the same old garbage under the wrappings?

If I didn't know better I'd think this was just another expression of the New Age Movement that has so infected my own parish. The pastor does Eucharistic Adoration but with an oil lamp with scented oils burning before the Monstrance, the church always has icons sitting in corners "absorbing a blessing," and all kinds of wacko ideas are promoted through a "spiritual book club" where the parishioners--who genuinely want to deepen their understanding of the Faith from all ages--are treated to the most bizarre ideas and recommendations about what constitutes the spiritual life and the normal life of the believing Christian.

Nothing new under the sun, is there?

In Christ,

BOB

Give me the DL or TLM.

Look in the Church News -- it seems like the Gregorian Latin Mass is having a mandatory comeback, and this is no hoax or April Fool's joke.

Me thinks that RC folks will soon have to make an informed decision: (1) Gregorian Latin Mass, (2) NCW modified Novus Ordo, or (3) Byzantine Divine Liturgy.

Let us pray.

It seems the Vatican did require more liturgical changes:

http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=59105

The article specifically mentions that the Vatican forced them to end receiving communion while seated, and exclusive Masses. I'm not sure about the apparent contradiction with the Zenit article.

The contradiction is because the CWN relied on a news agency while Zenit relied on Kiko Arguello.

That is, precisely, the problem. Kiko Arguello has been disobeying the Vatican's directives on the liturgy and was never punished for it. Now, his group is even given permanent approval. What does that signal to the whole Church?

I am not under any illusions that the NCW is suddenly going to obey. The mere fact that Kiko has twisted the Vatican's words once more demonstrates the problem.

With some apologies for bumping this thread but some more information seems to be coming to light

The Neocatechumenal Way has reached a new milestone in the history of their community with the recent approval of their statutes. Despite some changes to the statutes that were submitted to the Vatican in 2002, Giuseppe Gennarini, the group�s U.S. spokesman, told CNA that the new guidelines are important because they guarantee the permanence of the movement within the Church and recognize the spiritual good that comes from the Way.

The new statutes were delivered to the founders of the international movement by Cardinal Stanislaw Rylko on June 13 along with a decree of approval......

more here [catholicnewsagency.com]

I don't understand this at all, I thought that that kind of vile service was exclusive to protestantism. It makes me sad that tradition is of so little importance to so many people.

Sorry my question was answered earlier.

Whether we approve of the form of their services or not - in their eyes they are valid and , it appears , they have been given approval to use them.

I agree it is a shame - but personally I feel that the adjective you applied is inappropriate.

sorry to offend, it was too much I agree. I only heard about this today. my apologies

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In IMO if it is meant to be it will be. If it does not bear good fruits it will not stand.

Converted Viking

Has it occured to anyone participating in this thread that the Holy See knows a great deal more about what the neo-Catechuminal way is and what it does than they do?

Edmac

If it does not bear good fruit, it will fester, not stand.

Islam stands and progresses, but Muslims are guilty of 85% of the world's violence. Not good fruit.

To be sure, not all muslims are violent, and I'm sure not all neo-cat types are freaks, but it sure looks to me like the beginning of preparation for something not christian.

I'm sickened by all the unChristian criticisms and assumptions.

First of all, there are obviously a lot of Catholics who do not like this new Liturgy, so there is absolutely no call for non-Catholics to claim the Catholic Church is going downhill because of this.

Second, I don't like it, so I won't attend it. If you don't like it, don't attend it. But obviously, there are people out there whose spiritual needs are being met by it. In a word, they feel they are getting closer to Christ. How dare anyone here judge that as wrong!!! I can just picture Jesus right now admonishing, "hypocrites! You want to live by the letter rather than by the spirit, and judge others for not living by your letter!"