What, I think, should be of greatest interest to Byzantine Rite Christians about the NCW is the success with which it has appropriated Byzantine iconography into its liturgy, to the extent that Byzantine iconography is strongly becoming associated with the NCW in Catholic circles.
The NCW's churches and meeting places are often painted in a sort of Byzantine style. It would be interesting, though, to find out if NCW "Byzantine" iconography actually conforms to the canons of genuine Orthodox iconography.
This is also an Eastern Catholic video clip of the Newcatechumenate Way.
Apart from including a few iconic images in a melange of statuary, banners, etc, this clip has nothing to suggest that it is Eastern.
Many years,
Neil (who has not forgotten, before anyone feels compelled to remind him, that a Melkite hierarch invited the NCW into his eparchy)
Back in the early 1990s, I was invited to a Folocare day of recollection at a Melkite Church in Southern California by a Melkite hierarch. No names will be mentioned. There was a priest who did magic.
1. You will not initially be ALLOWED to attend Mass with the rest of your community,
2. Your real loyalty will be to your responsible and not to your parish community,
4. Your children must be kept in a separate room until they are 13 and can join you in the Eucharistic celebration (whether or not they've even received the Sacraments themselves!)
5. Your family, friends and even spouses will not be allowed to celebrate the Eucharist with you unless they also go through the steps of the Way
Whoa boy! What happened to the BODY OF CHRIST?
Christianity, especially Catholic and Orthodox Christianity, is 100% transparent. Nothing is hidden. You are given it all on day 1. The Mass is celebrated for the entire community and all are welcome. In fact, wedding and funeral Masses are not private affairs, they are part of the community -- you don't need to be invited, nor do you even need to know who the people involved ARE!
The Neocatechumenal Way rejects this. If they don't conform to the True Faith, they should be suppressed as soon as possible before they have another 20 years to destroy even more lives and minds with their heretical teachings, beliefs, and practices.
Also, did I read on their website that they call it "Christianism"?
1. You will not initially be ALLOWED to attend Mass with the rest of your community,
2. Your real loyalty will be to your responsible and not to your parish community,
4. Your children must be kept in a separate room until they are 13 and can join you in the Eucharistic celebration (whether or not they've even received the Sacraments themselves!)
5. Your family, friends and even spouses will not be allowed to celebrate the Eucharist with you unless they also go through the steps of the Way
Whoa boy! What happened to the BODY OF CHRIST?
Christianity, especially Catholic and Orthodox Christianity, is 100% transparent. Nothing is hidden. You are given it all on day 1. The Mass is celebrated for the entire community and all are welcome. In fact, wedding and funeral Masses are not private affairs, they are part of the community -- you don't need to be invited, nor do you even need to know who the people involved ARE!
The Neocatechumenal Way rejects this. If they don't conform to the True Faith, they should be suppressed as soon as possible before they have another 20 years to destroy even more lives and minds with their heretical teachings, beliefs, and practices.
Also, did I read on their website that they call it "Christianism"?
Whoa is right. Oh my goodness. #5 is awful!
I'm having such a hard time with this! Not because it's "new" but because there's an expectation if the Pope is going to approve something, it should at least teach Catholicism. This looks more like gnosticism. They've spread so quickly too-and now that it's approved well I worry about the future. I would like to think that I'm overreacting though-but I'm very shocked by all this.
The NCW's churches and meeting places are often painted in a sort of Byzantine style. It would be interesting, though, to find out if NCW "Byzantine" iconography actually conforms to the canons of genuine Orthodox iconography.
Somehow, asianpilgrim, I think we can guess the answer to that one
I have seen the artwork of the founder of the NCW described as consisting of 'pastiches of Byzantine icons'. Have a look at his take on the Theotokos of Vladimir here and see what you think:
Well, according to the following article from Zenit, "Cardinal Rylko offered three specific guidelines to members of the Neocatechumenal communities: obedience to bishops, acknowledgement of the role of the presbyter, and fidelity to the liturgical texts of the Church."
Indeed as far as liturgical practice, it won't change much. "For the reception of the Host, the faithful will stand before the minister. This is not the case in receiving the Chalice, which will continue to be received seated, to avoid spilling the precious Blood."
As far as the organization catechism, it is still under scrunity. "Arg�ello revealed that at present, the Holy See is studying the texts of the Way's catecheses, so that they can be made public and distributed to parishes worldwide."
Indeed as far as liturgical practice, it won't change much. "For the reception of the Host, the faithful will stand before the minister. This is not the case in receiving the Chalice, which will continue to be received seated, to avoid spilling the precious Blood."
The Chalice will continue to be received seated to avoid spilling the precious Blood?
That is just about the lamest excuse I've ever heard!!!
Christians have been receiving the precious blood standing for two thousand years!
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