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Fatima Byzantine Icon #295397 07/17/08 02:29 AM
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Laka Ya Rabb Member L Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 477 Phoenix	Is the Icon on this opening page [byzantinecatholic.org] a rendition of Fatima or is it the icon that predates Fatima as mention by Dr. Alex Roman in this article? [cache.search.yahoo-ht2.akadns.net] In the article, Dr. Roman says this: Quote There is even a Byzantine-Style Icon of Our Lady of Fatima which, so the tradition holds, first appeared in Russia itself before the Revolution and even before the apparitions at Fatima! It shows the Mother of God in white in the traditional pose of the "Oranta" with hands uplifted in prayer and, interestingly enough, with not a rosary, but a prayer rope in Her hand . . . Thanks in advance.

Re: Fatima Byzantine Icon Laka Ya Rabb #295411 07/17/08 05:35 AM
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,564 Likes: 1 Dublin F Fr Serge Keleher Member
Fr Serge Keleher Member F Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,564 Likes: 1 Dublin	I have a copy of it - which I obtained at Fatima several decades ago. Fr. Serge

Re: Fatima Byzantine Icon Fr Serge Keleher #295429 07/17/08 11:46 AM
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Laka Ya Rabb Member L Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 477 Phoenix	Father, Bless! You have a copy of the icon shown on Our Lady of Fatima Russian Catholic Church webpage or you have a copy of the icon Dr. Roman mentions in his article. OR are they the same? Do you have a scanner or picture of the icon you have? Or might you have any way of pointing me to a picture of it online?

Re: Fatima Byzantine Icon Laka Ya Rabb #295482 07/17/08 11:57 PM
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Laka Ya Rabb Member L Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 477 Phoenix	Anyone else?

Re: Fatima Byzantine Icon Laka Ya Rabb #295489 07/18/08 02:17 AM
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,564 Likes: 1 Dublin F Fr Serge Keleher Member
Fr Serge Keleher Member F Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,564 Likes: 1 Dublin	Since I can't find my copy of that icon at the moment, I can't send you a reproduction of the reproduction, so to speak. But it looks rather like the one on the web-site. I suspect that this one, the reproduction I have, and the original Russian icon are one and the same. Fr. Serge

Re: Fatima Byzantine Icon Fr Serge Keleher #295491 07/18/08 02:40 AM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 477 Phoenix L Laka Ya Rabb Member
Laka Ya Rabb Member L Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 477 Phoenix	Father, Bless! That would be most helpful.

Re: Fatima Byzantine Icon Laka Ya Rabb #295541 07/18/08 03:21 PM
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,520 Likes: 10 The Golden State G griego catolico Member
griego catolico Member G Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,520 Likes: 10 The Golden State	Originally Posted by Laka Ya Rabb Father, Bless! You have a copy of the icon shown on Our Lady of Fatima Russian Catholic Church webpage or you have a copy of the icon Dr. Roman mentions in his article. OR are they the same? Do you have a scanner or picture of the icon you have? Or might you have any way of pointing me to a picture of it online? The Fatima icon is actually a variant of the "Joy Of All Who Sorrow" icon, which appeared in Russia before the revolution. The iconographer who wrote the Fatima icon used the "Joy Of All Who Sorrow" icon as his model and simply added the figures of Lucia, Jacinta, and Francisco. I have the Fatima icon as a jpeg. Just PM me with an e-mail address and I will send it you.

Re: Fatima Byzantine Icon griego catolico #295559 07/18/08 11:38 PM
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Laka Ya Rabb Member L Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 477 Phoenix	Who was the Iconographer who wrote the Fatima Icon?

Re: Fatima Byzantine Icon Laka Ya Rabb #295687 07/20/08 08:55 PM
Joined: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,760 PA Paul B Member
Paul B Member Joined: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,760 PA	I posted a photo of a recent Byzantine Fatima icon in the photo gallery.

Re: Fatima Byzantine Icon Laka Ya Rabb #295781 07/21/08 11:42 PM
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,520 Likes: 10 The Golden State G griego catolico Member
griego catolico Member G Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,520 Likes: 10 The Golden State	Originally Posted by Laka Ya Rabb Who was the Iconographer who wrote the Fatima Icon? I do not know as yet. I will see if I can find out.

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