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In another thread Fr. Deacon Lance wrote: As for us, you have three things going on with the RDL, translations people don't like, music people don't like and rubrics/omissions that do not conform to the 64 Liturgikon or Ordo Celebrationis. I think those writing letters will win the appeal to allow the 64 Liturgikon to be used. (and some places are still using it anyways) I do not think they will be successful in getting the 07 Liturgikon rescended. So ultimately pastors will be left with the decision based on parish reaction to the RDL and their own tastes. Thank you for this! It summarizes what the clergy and people believe about the RDL. At the beginning of Holy Week it is nice for someone to talk about the light at the end of the tunnel. I pray that the bishops with listen to Rome with one ear and their people with the other. I pray that more people write to Rome. Everyone have a good Holy Week! Keep writing to Rome!
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Christ is Risen!
During the Great Fast we used the old books for Presanctified. During Holy Week we used the Levkulic books. It was like home week. People who stopped coming because of the RDL were back. The singing was terrific. It was a welcome respite from the plague of the RDL. The Ruthenian Liturgy is far from dead. The Revised Liturgy is very far from being accepted.
Keep writing to Rome!
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I too, was glad to hear the Levkulic music still being used at my family parish for Pascha. I didn't have to carry any book while processing which made it easier to hold my candle. Our older parishioners refuse to sing the the new RDL music and our pastor knows this and respects their wishes. We also sang a ton of Slavonic thorough the entire Matins/Divine Liturgy which was really great and everybody sang from the heart with great love and gusto!
Christos Voskrese! Voistinnu Voskrese!
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Christ is Risen!
During the Great Fast we used the old books for Presanctified. During Holy Week we used the Levkulic books. It was like home week. People who stopped coming because of the RDL were back... Hi, Dostojno Jest! Was the announcement made beforehand that your parish would be using the old books during Holy Week? Is that what prompted those who had stopped coming because of the RDL to return? Just curious as to how the word got out... Al (a pilgrim)
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Pilgrim,
There was no formal announcement. About the second week of lent the pastor and cantor began telling everyone that the existing Holy Week books would be used. Good news spreads fast!
Dostojno Jest
Keep writing to Rome! Letters do work!
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Keep writing letters! Not to the bishops - they don't care and will not answer. Rome does care and will respond. The travesty of the Ruined Divine Liturgy needs to be ended.
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I did write to my bishop. He did respond back to me. It was a cordial letter. Without getting into details, he thanked me and said that my opinion of the RDL will be collated with the others he received to help in future decisions. As I told my wife, at least he wrote back.
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Wow! The ice has thawed in Narnia.
Congratulations, guys, on your struggle to be faithful.
This is good news.
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Keep writing letters! Not to the bishops - they don't care and will not answer. Rome does care and will respond. The travesty of the Ruined Divine Liturgy needs to be ended. I second that emotion!  The Archeparchial clergy meet this week. I know that the subject of parish closings and consolidation is being discussed. I wonder if the the subject of RDL feedback is going to be discussed? Ung
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Keep writing letters!
Your letters are working and have caused Rome to sit up and take notice of the Pittsburgh Revised Divine Liturgy. There are lots of rumors. The bishops have no plans to make public the new directives from Rome so no one knows for sure. Two of the bishops did state in public that Father Petras and the liturgical commission are revising the Revised Divine Liturgy and that they would be meeting in July. Archbishop Basil also said that he didn�t get involved in the details of the revision because Father Petras and J. Michael Thompson are the experts and Bishop Pataki strongly supported them.
If you have not written any letters yet, write one themtoday!
Send a letter of support for the official Ruthenian Recension Divine Liturgy to Archbishop Basil and each of the other three bishops.
Send a letter of support for the official Ruthenian Recension Divine Liturgy to Cardinal Sandri at the Oriental Congregation in Rome. Complain about being denied access to the official Divine Liturgy.
If you write and keep writing the Ruthenian Recension Divine Liturgy can be saved!
Keep writing letters!
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Keep writing letters!
Your letters are working and have caused Rome to sit up and take notice of the Pittsburgh Revised Divine Liturgy. There are lots of rumors. The bishops have no plans to make public the new directives from Rome so no one knows for sure. Two of the bishops did state in public that Father Petras and the liturgical commission are revising the Revised Divine Liturgy and that they would be meeting in July. Archbishop Basil also said that he didn�t get involved in the details of the revision because Father Petras and J. Michael Thompson are the experts and Bishop Pataki strongly supported them.
If you have not written any letters yet, write one themtoday!
Send a letter of support for the official Ruthenian Recension Divine Liturgy to Archbishop Basil and each of the other three bishops.
Send a letter of support for the official Ruthenian Recension Divine Liturgy to Cardinal Sandri at the Oriental Congregation in Rome. Complain about being denied access to the official Divine Liturgy.
If you write and keep writing the Ruthenian Recension Divine Liturgy can be saved!
Keep writing letters! Alliluia, Alliluia, Alliluia, Hospodi, slava Teb'i! Ung
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Your letters are working and have caused Rome to sit up and take notice of the Pittsburgh Revised Divine Liturgy. There are lots of rumors. The bishops have no plans to make public the new directives from Rome so no one knows for sure. Two of the bishops did state in public that Father Petras and the liturgical commission are revising the Revised Divine Liturgy and that they would be meeting in July. Archbishop Basil also said that he didn�t get involved in the details of the revision because Father Petras and J. Michael Thompson are the experts and Bishop Pataki strongly supported them.
Let's keep rumors out of this section. Though they may give some hope if they are proven true, they only serve to demoralize many more if they are proven to be unfounded. Keep the discussion on topic and with facts that can be verified, not hear-say.
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Keep writing letters!
Your letters are working and have caused Rome to sit up and take notice of the Pittsburgh Revised Divine Liturgy. There are lots of rumors. The bishops have no plans to make public the new directives from Rome so no one knows for sure. Two of the bishops did state in public that Father Petras and the liturgical commission are revising the Revised Divine Liturgy and that they would be meeting in July. Archbishop Basil also said that he didn�t get involved in the details of the revision because Father Petras and J. Michael Thompson are the experts and Bishop Pataki strongly supported them.
If you have not written any letters yet, write one themtoday!
Send a letter of support for the official Ruthenian Recension Divine Liturgy to Archbishop Basil and each of the other three bishops.
Send a letter of support for the official Ruthenian Recension Divine Liturgy to Cardinal Sandri at the Oriental Congregation in Rome. Complain about being denied access to the official Divine Liturgy.
If you write and keep writing the Ruthenian Recension Divine Liturgy can be saved!
Keep writing letters! DJ, Anything in writing yet or any official press releases yet? Ung
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Keep the discussion on topic and with facts that can be verified, not hear-say.
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Administrator Very wise. I don't want to be too optimistic. How often have you seen a bishop back down, or admit that he was wrong? Nick
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Keep the discussion on topic and with facts that can be verified, not hear-say.
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Administrator Very wise. I don't want to be too optimistic. How often have you seen a bishop back down, or admit that he was wrong? Nick I wouldn't get your hopes up about any Roman-mandated revision, as mentioned above by "Dostojno Jest". A friend of mine with Roman contacts says that nothing of the sort is happening, and that there was no meeting of the Liturgical Commission in July. He says that the only thing "out there" for discussion was the possibility of printing pew books with the same translations, but with no music. Just reporing what I'm hearing. My source is a good one (or, at least, has been in the past). Dn. Robert
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