3 members (KostaC, Adamcsc, 1 invisible),
573
guests, and
136
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums26
Topics35,526
Posts417,645
Members6,178
|
Most Online4,112 Mar 25th, 2025
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 482
Member
|
Member
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 482 |
Last edited by DAVIDinVA; 09/01/08 01:45 PM. Reason: add 2nd source
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 5,724 Likes: 2
Member
|
Member
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 5,724 Likes: 2 |
It happens in the best of families. Children don't always do what parents and we teachers want them to do. Is it newsworthy? I suspect not.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 482
Member
|
Member
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 482 |
it relates to a thread which was started earlier
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 5,724 Likes: 2
Member
|
Member
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 5,724 Likes: 2 |
Are you referring to the thread which was closed?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 1,964
Member
|
Member
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 1,964 |
Human beings fall short of perfection.
We can not expect perfection.
We should not spread gossip.
At least here we have some confirmation.
In another thread, now closed, a poster, under color of protesting the treatment of children, disseminated internet blog bilge attacking children, their parents, political candidates and the entire US political system.
The McCain campaign and the Palin family deserve our respect for facing up to the difficult side of being Pro-Life.
Unfortunately, I expect a number of posters here and many persons on the other political side to give no charity, to give no credit, and to take much glee in another family's difficulty.
Human beings fall short of perfection.
We can not expect perfection.
We should not spread gossip.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 48
Member
|
Member
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 48 |
Agreed. What is sad is not that she is pregnant. What is sad is that she had premarital sex. However we all fall short. The only difference in her and millions of other teens is that she got pregnant and isn't aborting and so gets "caught". Thank God the girl is not aborting her unborn child! How many parents calling themselves pro-life wouldn't shuffle "their" daughter off to the abortion clinic to hide what they know would be seen as scandalous and fodder for the gossip mill. It's even more courageous that they are in the whole world's eyes and they aren't taking the easy route.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 5,724 Likes: 2
Member
|
Member
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 5,724 Likes: 2 |
I remember when the first President Bush was running for re-election and a reporter asked Barbara Bush some questions about the election. She informed the reporter, "I am not running for anything." Neither is this girl. Spouses and children of candidates should be left alone.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 10,930
Member
|
Member
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 10,930 |
I do appreciate Sen. Obama for saying to leave her alone. That will not be headed of course by the media, but they should.
It does put the question front and center. Though idealy it's not what is preferred, at least like as already been said, she WILL NOT have an abortion.
Now the good thing, how many parents will this speak too? How many more parents will gain the courage to say we can make it through this? God will draw good from bad if we allow him too. Hopefully their strength and proper handling of this whole situation, will give a lot of encouragement to and save lives of little ones that might otherwise be lost.
It is sad girls think that will never happen to me. Scripture says that things hidden in the dark will be brought into the light.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,036 Likes: 4
Member
|
Member
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,036 Likes: 4 |
What is important is not the event, but the family's response--which is the same that I've tried to take in the situation.
I also applaud Obama's response.
hawk
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 6,191 Likes: 3
Member
|
Member
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 6,191 Likes: 3 |
Two Lungs,
Why would you expect many posters here to take glee in this? I would think just the opposite. Much sorrow over the promiscuity. Much sorrow that many seem to glamorize promiscuity. But I wouldn't expect much glee.
I think most would pray that these two young people would repent of their sins and commit themselves to Christ and to be the best married couple and parents that they could be.
It is sad but remember Saul and Augustine who both committed great sins but eventually became great saints.
CDL
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 10,994 Likes: 10
Moderator Member
|
Moderator Member
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 10,994 Likes: 10 |
Agreed. What is sad is not that she is pregnant. What is sad is that she had premarital sex. However we all fall short. The only difference in her and millions of other teens is that she got pregnant and isn't aborting and so gets "caught". Thank God the girl is not aborting her unborn child! How many parents calling themselves pro-life wouldn't shuffle "their" daughter off to the abortion clinic to hide what they know would be seen as scandalous and fodder for the gossip mill. It's even more courageous that they are in the whole world's eyes and they aren't taking the easy route. I agree...and you seem to know the unfortunate realities that exist in today's society and culture. Infact, I am sensing some judgementalism in some posts about 'her sin'! Could that be the reason so many in this country hate conservative Christians and our politics? Who doesn't 'sin'? Who hasn't committed the same 'type' of sin, if not in action--in their thoughts?!? I am glad that the father of the baby was in a serious enough relationship with her to marry her. That is not generally the case at that age. I pray that their marriage will work out. In Christ, Alice
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 482
Member
|
Member
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 482 |
Yeah, when a couple that young marries, the odds are usually against them. I'm hoping the publicity around this doesn't give other teen-ager girls the idea that if they do same thing thier b/f will automatically marry them. Also this girl comes from a well to do family, so chances are she'll have everything she needs. Many teen mothers aren't that lucky.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 1,180
Orthodox Christian Member
|
Orthodox Christian Member
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 1,180 |
I agree, Alice, and I too pray that Bristol Palin's marriage will work out.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 6,191 Likes: 3
Member
|
Member
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 6,191 Likes: 3 |
Help me out here. Now two posters have judged other posters and have accused them vaguely of being judgmental. It hasn't happened yet. Why have two posters here accused others by saying that they "sense judgmentalism" when none exists so far? Isn't that "projection" on these two posters part?
BTW Someone said that we should not expect perfection. Why shouldn't we?
CDL
Last edited by carson daniel lauffer; 09/02/08 07:50 AM.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 48
Member
|
Member
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 48 |
Nothing wrong with expecting perfectionism. I think we are supposed to expect it of ourselves rather and extend mercy to others like we would want given to us.
|
|
|
|
|