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How many times I have been chided for not receiving Communion a second time within the day, when I could have done so?

Just to be clear with everyone, my comment about being ensnared by the devil was not meant to be some kind of scare tactic. The author of the prayer I cited seemed to have in mind a deliberate willful rebellion of not receiving.

I was referring to personal experience.

"Why didn't you receive communion"
"Well, I already had communion this morning..."
"But it is OK to receive twice in a day! Why didn't you go to Communion again?"
"Uhm... my ideal is only once a day"
"Nonsense!"

That sort of thing...

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Originally Posted by JBenedict
"Indeed, some notable contemporary spiritual writers (e.g. Fra Stefano Manelli) advocate attending as many Masses as possible everyday..."

This is not a new development, but has a been a spiritual practice of some of the saints for over a thousand years.

The below is from the "Explanation of the Holy Mass" by Father Martin von Cochem (1625-1712) in an edition published in 1896:

"Furthermore, let us hope that thy experience will be similar to that recorded of the Blessed Nancker, Bishop of Breslau in the thirteenth century. This prelate was distinguished by his great love for holy Mass, which induced him to be present, if possible, at all the Masses said every day in his cathedral. Just at the time when he lay dying a pious matron of the city heard the voices of angels singing in such sweet and melodious strains that she thought herself transported to paradise. While she was wondering within herself what was the cause of this rejoicing, a voice said to her : " The soul of Bishop Nancker has left the body and is being carried by the angels to heaven." The good woman then asked in what way the bishop had merited this great honor and privilege. And the same voice replied: " Through the great affection and veneration he had for holy Mass." An example such as this ought certainly to encourage us in going to Mass. The pious bishop was taken up to heaven without passing through purgatory; nay, more, he was carried up by the angels in triumph with glad and jubilant songs. And why? Chiefly because of his great devotion to holy Mass; he had thereby paid all he owed to divine justice and merited a glorious entry into the courts of heaven. If thou wouldst escape the purgatorial fire and obtain a high place in heaven, imitate his example and be zealous in hearing Mass. And if it is not possible for thee to hear many Masses, as he did, at least do so in desire, and God will accept thy good intention and grant thee a happy end."

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"The ecclesiastical historian Baronius tells us that in the early ages of Christianity priests were at liberty to say as many Masses every day as they chose. The holy Pope Leo III. had recourse to the holy sacrifice in all his necessities, and was known, in times of affliction, to celebrate no less than nine Masses in one day, with great fervor and recollection.

"The saintly Bishop Ulrich was accustomed to say three Masses every day, unless prevented by sickness or stress of business. Since 1073 the practice of saying more Masses than one has been abolished, Christmas Day alone being excepted.

"St. Hedwige of Poland is said to have had a profound veneration for holy Mass. She always assisted at as many as she could; and if enough were not celebrated in the chapel attached to the palace to satisfy her devotion, she sent for other priests, recompensing them liberally for their trouble. Raynaldus records of St. Louis of France that he was in the habit of hearing two, three, sometimes even four Masses daily. His courtiers murmured at this, saying it was not right for the king to spend all the morning at prayer in the chapel instead of attending to state affairs and leaving Mass to the clergy. The king, hearing what they said, answered: " I wonder that you should complain of my hearing Mass, for not one of you would think me to blame if I spent twice as much time in hunting or playing dice." This was a very good answer, and it applies to many amongst ourselves as well as to the officials of King Louis' court. For in our blindness we imagine that it is a waste of time and loss of money to go to Mass on week-days. But if two or three hours are spent in idle conversation, at play, over our wine, or perhaps in sleep, we think that the time thus squandered has been most profitably employed. What an unfortunate delusion !

"The same historian tells us that Henry I of England was also accustomed to hear three Masses every day even when engrossed with urgent affairs of state. It is said that once, when he was talking with the King of France, the conversation turned upon hearing Mass; and the French king remarked that one ought not always to go to Mass, but to hear sermons as well. Henry I courteously replied: " It is a greater pleasure to me to see my friend frequently than to hear others speak in his praise." With this opinion I who write this book fully coincide; in fact, I have often told people who asked me whether it was better to go to Mass or to hear sermons that to assist at Mass was by far the best. One ought not, however, to eschew sermons altogether, for they are very useful, and even necessary, especially in the case of hardened sinners, to awaken in them a sense and an abhorrence of sin.

"The Blessed Anthony of Stroncone delighted in hearing Mass above any other spiritual exercise. He assisted at the holy sacrifice, and served the Mass with such fervor and joy of heart that he forgot all about his meals. If Mass could have been celebrated all day long from early morn until night closed in, he would always have been present, without ever leaving the church. When he grew old, and his enfeebled limbs could hardly support him, he would still totter to the church in order to hear Mass, and this he did even when the hand of death was already upon him, for he rose from his bed to fill his accustomed place near the altar. Let us take example from this Franciscan brother, who was beatified in the year 1690, and be more zealous than ever in our attendance at holy Mass.

"We read in Baronius that the Roman Emperor Lothaire used to hear three Masses every day, even when he had to take the field against the enemy."

http://books.google.com/books?id=B8QxAAAAMAAJ

Yes, I was aware of this practice. Fra Stefano Manelli has a long list of saints who did the same thing. The record-holder seems to be the Venerable Matthew Talbot OSF, who sometimes attended anywhere from 7 to as many as 15 masses in one day. And in his journal there is an entry indicating that he once managed to attend 22 masses in a single day.

(For those wondering how this could be possible, please remember that it was once common for priests to quietly celebrate Low Mass in side altars, all at the same time. Someone who positioned himself in such a way as to be able to see several priests celebrating Mass at the same time was considered as having attended all their Masses and thus having the merit of attending so many Masses)

Personally, I am deeply troubled by this episode in the history of Latin spirituality, for the following reasons:

1) This emphasis on a multiplicity of Masses contributed greatly towards abuses such as the "15-minute Low Mass" as well as other liturgical abuses geared towards accelerating the speed of the Mass.

2) It is evident from the canon law of the Church that multiplicity of masses has never been the ideal. The fact that, until very recently, priests were forbidden to celebrate more than one Mass a day, bespeaks of this. Furthermore, the "rules of life" written by many saints and enforced in many great monasteries actually mention attendance in only one or two masses per day.

3) I am horrified by the purely quantitative approach that often overtook the devout. Reading these stories is far from edifying for me. It was as if the essence and the value of the Mass was forgotten, because people -- even devout and saintly ones -- were forever "counting Masses" because more masses attended = more grace and more merit. Was this purely quantitative approach to the graces of Holy Mass justified at all? Did it do justice to the Mass as THE source and summit of the Christian life? Did it not destroy the concept of the liturgical day?

I would like to point out that in some SSPX polemics against concelebration, one of the arguments leveled against it is that the Church allegedly condemns concelebration precisely because it "decreases the number of Masses said". It just illustrates the depths of absurdity to which this practice has led.

Also, this purely quantitative approach to the Mass was dependent upon an extremely inadequate theology of the Mass, as well as from inadequate liturgical practice. People could "attend Mass" while doing their private devotions (saying the rosary, doing meditation, spiritual reading, etc.) and attending several Masses in succession while simultaneously carrying out a series of devotions was precisely a way of endowing these devotions with more grace and more merit.

I fervently hope that this practice never comes back to life in the Roman Church.

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Originally Posted by byzanTN
I tease some of my Latin friends about having "communionitis," since they can't seem to pass a church without receiving. I find the practice common in the RC church to be far too casual.

The pendulum does seem to swing widely here. On the one side the armies of extraordinary ministers regardless of the liturgy's attendance and on the other families of on the tongue whilst kneeling is the only permissible method.

The practice of naming yourself when you approach the Eucharist is important for many reasons, but in the context of this discussion I think it also reinforces something to the communed that he is not simply one of many faceless people in line. He is known to God and to his priest as a distinct person within the body of Christ. For me at least, there is an extra moment of pause and reflection before I begin walking forward as I remember that fact.

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I think it's difficult to call an "episode" a practice that dates from the time of Pope Saint Leo III (reigned 795-816) and has continued with repeated manifestations throughout the centuries up to the present day.

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Our parish bulletin reads: As a friendly reminder, only Orthodox Christians who have properly prepared themselves through fasting, prayer and recent Confession may approach the Holy Chalice to receive Holy Communion.

What counts as recent confession is not specified but my spiritual father suggests that one go to confession at least once a month. Also, I've been told that fasting begins at midnight and that it is the norm that husbands and wives abstain from conjugal relations on Saturday evening, but that the rule is not absolute (the rule can be relaxed depending on circumstances). Our Church is in the Antiochian jurisdiction.

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Of course, in one of my more wicked moments, I think I have found the answer. Perhaps RCs receive communion more often because they need to? wink biggrin

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Originally Posted by Serge Keleher
Insisting that one should make a sacramental Confession every time one wishes to receive Holy Communion is well justified if one is to approach the Holy Mysteries once a year.
My wife and I make sacramental confession before the reception of the Holy Eucharist in the Holy Orthodox Church--we receive regularly. It is a wonderful blessing to be properly prepared through prayer and fasting and to make confession before each Holy Communion.

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Perhaps this source may be helpful from a Greek Orthodox Priest. He states that the Orthodox Church does not by and large promote or teach confession before each communion, but recommends periodic confession, perhaps 4-6 weeks and frequent reception of the Eucharist. But he acknowledges that one's parish priest is often the person to look to in order to determine how often he would like to see the faithful in confession, and that he can require or ask different things of different people.

Preparing To Receive Holy Communion by By Fr. Tom Avramis
http://www.stgeorgegoc.org/eucharist2.html

I am not accusing anyone here of anything and am happy to hear how seriously some of us will take reception of the Blessed Sacrament but this quote is a good one to consider regarding the issue.

St. John Cassian - “We must not avoid communion because we deem ourselves to be sinful. We must approach it more often for the healing of the soul…but with much humility and faith…considering ourselves unworthy. Otherwise, it is impossible to receive communion once a year, as certain people do…such people manifest more pride than humility…for when they received, they think of themselves as worthy.”

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Perhaps this source may be helpful from an Orthodox Priest Fr. Tom Avramis. He states that the Orthodox Church does not by and large promote or teach confession before each communion, but recommends periodic confession, perhaps 4-6 weeks and frequent reception of the Eucharist unless there is good reason not to receive. He fears that making it too difficult to receive will keep people away from what they most need or create a negative effect.
But he acknowledges that one's parish priest is often the person to look to in order to determine how often he would like to see the faithful in confession, and that he can require or ask different things of different people.

Preparing To Receive Holy Communion by By Fr. Tom Avramis
http://www.stgeorgegoc.org/eucharist2.html

I am not accusing anyone here of anything and am happy to hear how seriously some of us will take reception of the Blessed Sacrament but this quote struck me as of interest regarding this issue.

St. John Cassian - “We must not avoid communion because we deem ourselves to be sinful. We must approach it more often for the healing of the soul…but with much humility and faith…considering ourselves unworthy. Otherwise, it is impossible to receive communion once a year, as certain people do…such people manifest more pride than humility…for when they received, they think of themselves as worthy.”

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