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Glory Be to Jesus Christ!

I want to announce that on Sunday 30th His
Grace Metropolitan JOHN (Martyniak) of
Peremyshl and Warsaw will ordain me as the first
married permanent deacon not only in our
metropolitan provonce, but in the whole Catholic Church in Poland as well.
The ordination will take place in the Greek-Catholic parish church in Lublin, Poland. The Pontifical Liturgy will begin at 10.00 AM (local time - GMT+1).

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Piotr,

Congratulations and may God Who is Good and All-wise and Merciful grant you many years in His service and shower you and your family with His blessings.

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Glory to Jesus Christ!

MANY YEARS!!

Congratulations to our friend in Christ Piotr Siwicki

Soon to be the first married permanent Deacon of Poland! We will pray for the success of your ministry.

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Piotr,
Congratulations, but don't forget the pictures.
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CONGRATULATIONS on this memorable day! May the Holy Spirit continue to guide you every day of your service to the Lord. Being a deacon is a most exciting role - a bridge between the people and the priest. To be so close to the altar is a mystical experience in itself.

I do want to point out one "discrepancy" in the use of the term 'permanent' deacon. In the Eastern Catholic Church, since married clergy is an option, you are not restricted to remaining in the diaconate forever. If the vocation is there and you complete your theological studies, you can be ordained to the priesthood. Metropolitan Michael Bzdel CSsR of Winnipeg has on a number of occasions stated that there is no such thing as a permanent diaconate in the Eastern Church. The term "permanent diaconate" would apply in the Western Church since the West does not allow merried clergy. But in the East...

Again, many blessings to you!

Sincerely

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Dear Petro,

May God and the Mother of God of Kyiv-Belz (also known as "Czestochowa") bless you abundantly in your ministry as a Deacon in the Vineyard of Christ!

Your beadsman,

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Piotr,

Blessings and many years in service to the Lord.

Pokoj,
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Dear Friends,

Thanks to God, it happened!

Thanks also to your for your posts! smile

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Father Deacon Peter,
Axios, axios, axios!
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Father Deacon Piotr,

Congratulations to you and many years in God's service.

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I hate to be a "downer" but...

What will you really *do* as a deacon there? I know what deacons in the latin rite (which I belong to) are allowed to do but how much will you have time to do?

What I mean is this: in the mass the deacons have such a small role that they usually don't participate liturgically w/ the priest. In EC this is different as the deacon has a role.

Since the deacon is often married and usually has a secular job then he (in the USA anyway) only spends about 10 hours a week doing church related business/ministry. This has led me to observe that in the latin rite lay men can do as much ministry as deacons with the exception of administering baptism, matrimony, and burying people - things which deacons here don't spend much time doing anyway.

On a related note: since the church is so short of priests it would seem she would hire & pay deacons to work in a full-time capacity. I wonder if this is not done more often because the deacon would have to be paid more than the priest (so he could support family) which would cause problems with the priests.


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Originally posted by Yurij:
CONGRATULATIONS on this memorable day! May the Holy Spirit continue to guide you every day of your service to the Lord. Being a deacon is a most exciting role - a bridge between the people and the priest. To be so close to the altar is a mystical experience in itself.
Yes, it is something I really love.

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I do want to point out one "discrepancy" in the use of the term 'permanent' deacon. In the Eastern Catholic Church, since married clergy is an option, you are not restricted to remaining in the diaconate forever. If the vocation is there and you complete your theological studies, you can be ordained to the priesthood. Metropolitan Michael Bzdel CSsR of Winnipeg has on a number of occasions stated that there is no such thing as a permanent diaconate in the Eastern Church.
Well, I'll reply with a rather long quote, taken
from an article entitled "Married Priests in the
Eastern Catholic Churches", in "Eastern Churches
Journal", vol. 9 no. 1 (Spring 2002), pp. 53-54:

No one thought of it in 1890, but, the ban on Eastern Catholic married priests is destructive on the diaconate. Instead of developing normally in the service of the Church according to the intentions of the Lord Jesus Christ and the Holy Apostles, the diaconate often becomes a "holding station" for married Eastern Catholic clerics who are not interested in the diaconate for its own sake, have no clear idea of what the diaconate is, are only waiting for the opportunity to become presbyters and meanwhile usually function as ersatz presbyters in pastoral situations where no priest is available. Such deacons are a negative role model, and certainly cannot encourage authentic vocations to the diaconate. The bishops themselves do not hesitate to express the view that the deacons are "crippled" [142], and regret that the deacons are not presbyters. [143] The sooner those who have vocations to the presbyterate and whom the bishop wishes to ordain to that rank will so be ordained, the better it will be for the diaconate. [144]

FOOTNOTES

142 - As mentioned above, Father Benedict Ambrose was ordained priest in July 1988 in L'viv. On his return to Edmonton he began his pastoral service as a presbyter, and spoke about his first Sunday back in the parishes: I finally felt like a whole man, instead of having one hand tied behind my back! One can fully sympathize with Father Benedict, but what does this comment reveal about the underlying concept of the diaconate?

143 - During a day of recollection for deacons in certain eparchy in the diaspora, the diocesan bishop arrived, at the invitation of the deacons, and almost his first words were if only I could, I would ordain you all! The bishop startled when the Protodeacon responded: Your Grace, you already have ordained us all, and we desire only to express our gratitude for this precious gift.

144 - In this context, we must express deep appreciation for the small minority of deacons, both married and celibate, who insist that their vocation is to the diaconate and who steadfastly refuse attempts to pressure them into the presbyterate. These deacons do the whole Church an invaluable service.

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Well, I always insisted "that my vocation is to the diaconate" and after more than a year of service my feelings on that have become even stronger than before or just after my ordination.
Happily, no one "attempted to pressure me into presbyterate", so I had not any such "temptations" to refuse. wink


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The term "permanent diaconate" would apply in the Western Church since the West does not allow merried clergy. But in the East...
If really "the West does not allow married clergy", who those thousands of Latin permanent deacons are? Laymen? What does your comment "reveal about the underlying concept of the diaconate"? :p

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Piotr, duzhe dobdrij once again!!! Mnohaya i blahaya lita.

One small observation. I cringe a bit when I hear a Greek Catholic using the term "permanent" deacon since it is an RC term, and our married deacons have the possibility of becoming priests. You know what I mean. biggrin All of the married former Episcopalians and Lutherans operating as RC priests would likely have something to say as well.

God bless and all the best!!!

p.s. I haven't heard from Deacon Yurij recently but I hear he is taking some time off from his Eparchy of Saskatoon to study in Ottawa. Many years to Deacon Yurij as well.

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An one more quote, about Fr. Benedict Ambrose, from the same aticle as above (pp. 38-39):

Meanwhile in Canada the Eparchy of Edmonton was becoming desperate; one particular married deacon, Benedict Ambrose, was responsible for no less than seven parishes in the district of Grand Prairie, Alberta. The deacon visited these parishes by turns, conducting a make-shift service and distributing Holy Communion which he brought with him from Edmonton; some of these parishes did not see a priest from one year to the next. [105]

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105 - When the Bishop of Edmonton would hold solemn Hierarchical celebrations he had to invite presbyters to "serve as deacons", because the deacons were all in parishes attempting to replace the non-existent presbyters.

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My comment: deacons "playing" presbyters, presbyters "playing" deacons... Hardly an ideal. frown

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Peter, indeed there is a trinity of Holy Orders, deacon, priest and bishop. One does not automatically obviate "upward mobility" (a famous American corporate term) or the automatic jumping to the next step.

As we cannot envision the Trinity without three persons, our earthly Church, which is supposed to be that living icon of Heaven on earth, cannot truly function in that iconic reality without the full dignity and fostering of all three ranks of Holy Orders. I definitely resound with many of your observations.

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