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I have never heard of the word "Halpuki".
Is that the Rusyn term for cabbage rolls?
In Ukrainian they are called little doves because they are supposed to be small. I hate the big ones you find in non-Ukrainian sources.
Originally in Ukraine the cabbage leaves were stuffed with kasha, buckwheat. It was only in more recent times when rice became available that rice was used. Actually, it should be "Holub-ki". It's name comes from the appearance of the rolled cabbage resembling a resting "Holub" which of course is a "pigeon". Ung
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Actually it is not Slavic at all. It is a German recipe that was thrown in when there was bumper crop of cabbage. If the Slavs took the surplus off the enterprising Germans hands, then the recipe was thrown in.  Are you hinting towards a Frankish conspiracy theory?
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I have never heard of the word "Halpuki".
Is that the Rusyn term for cabbage rolls?
In Ukrainian they are called little doves because they are supposed to be small. I hate the big ones you find in non-Ukrainian sources.
Originally in Ukraine the cabbage leaves were stuffed with kasha, buckwheat. It was only in more recent times when rice became available that rice was used. Actually, it should be "Holub-ki". It's name comes from the appearance of the rolled cabbage resembling a resting "Holub" which of course is a "pigeon". Ung Some Polish relatives of mine call them pigeons. I always thought that was very strange.
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Asked my GodPapa about this and his comment was *groan* They're holubtsi! Mind you I make no comments as I've never eaten them
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They are very nice indeed. I think they are also popular with the Poles.
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Glory to Jesus Christ!
In Hungarian, we always called it töltött kápostza which meant stuffed cabbage.
We had a family friend who was always trying to learn Hungarian, and I was amused when once he called it "töltött kápostza stuffed"!
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I have never heard of the word "Halpuki".
Is that the Rusyn term for cabbage rolls?
In Ukrainian they are called little doves because they are supposed to be small. I hate the big ones you find in non-Ukrainian sources.
Originally in Ukraine the cabbage leaves were stuffed with kasha, buckwheat. It was only in more recent times when rice became available that rice was used. Actually, it should be "Holub-ki". It's name comes from the appearance of the rolled cabbage resembling a resting "Holub" which of course is a "pigeon". Ung It is the same in Polish--Gołąbki (go-WOMB-key), meaning pigeon.
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The stuffing of cabbage leaves with rice, or a rice and meat mixture, can be found all over the world. My bet is that it originated in the Middle East, spread into Turkey, and then moved into Eastern Europe as the Ottomans pressed onward. While the Turks may have been repelled, their "sarma" are with us to stay!
Dave We just sold 15,000 rolled grape leaves at our food festival 
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So let's post the various recipes.
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Actually, it should be "Holub-ki". It's name comes from the appearance of the rolled cabbage resembling a resting "Holub" which of course is a "pigeon".
Ung The word "holub" in Ukrainian is translated into English either as dove primarily and pigeon. The correct word for cabbage rolls in Ukrainian is " holubtsi".
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Actually, it should be "Holub-ki". It's name comes from the appearance of the rolled cabbage resembling a resting "Holub" which of course is a "pigeon".
Ung The word "holub" in Ukrainian is translated into English either as dove primarily and pigeon. The correct word for cabbage rolls in Ukrainian is " holubtsi". Excuse me !! have a look HERE
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Holubchi are extra delicious with shkvarke.
Please pass the ketchup too!
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You do realize that we could not only go on for pages and pages about Rusyn vs. Ukrainian, but we could also start another thread that could go on for pages about tomato sauce on top or not. For myself, I always preferred some kind of tomato flavoring in the sauce--either tomato sauce or my mother would make some in a pot with Campbell's tomato soup added to the sauce. More soup than sauce. But they were delicious. Oh, and there has to be lots of cabbage cut up and tossed in along with sauerkraut. If it's good quality sauerkraut, you can eat it right out of the container, liquid and all! Yummy.
Tim
ps--it's Rusyn and pronounced Holupki in my household.
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So let's post the various recipes.
BOB Agreed, anyone have any recipes?
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campbells tomato soup We made them yesterday, and the cabbage was crazy with thick leaves. I asked a friend that works in a deli, and he described the same thing to me. Is it odd up north this year?
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