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I noticed this on the banner on the home page:
"Synaxis of the Holy Archangel Michael and the All Angelic Powers: Archangels Gabriel, Raphael, Uriel, Selaphiel, Jegudiel, and Barachiel "
It was my understanding that the Church forbade the naming of any archangels other than the three in the Bible.
I know about the various traditions regarding the names of the other four, including some lists in early Patristic writings, but I thought that some Council or Pope said we weren't supposed to list them. Is that right?
Is this a Latin/Byzantine issue?
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The same feast is listed the Old Calendar, as well as the New Calendar. Where did you get that idea that there was a ban on the names of the archangels from? It does not seem to be an issue for the the Byzantine tradition.
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Well, I read a book on angelology back when I was in high school, and that's where I *originally* read it. . . . There are several different lists, from a variety of sources, particularly the OT apocrypha (in particular the Book of Enoch), but also some of the NT apocrypha, ECFs, etc. Ah, here's the answer, from a Catholic Answers thread: [url=http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=247071&page=2][/url] Catholic canon of Scriptures, Michael, Gabriel and Raphael, remained licit (though apparently Uriel and the others somehow 'crept back' into popular devotion in many places, even though Uriel's name was among those that were struck out). This restriction did not seem to affect the Eastern Church. Apparently, according to another response on that thread, it was only a "disciplinary" rule, since some "public veneration" of Uriel is found after 745.
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Dear Friends,
It is interesting that in the Old Rite Orthodox tradition (Old Believers) there are NINE Archangels listed, and to the list of seven above are added: St Hephael and St Tachiel.
The Monday of each week, as we know, is dedicated to the honour of St Michael and the Archangels and all the Bodiless Powers.
On Mt Athos and elsewhere is the tradition of fasting not only on Wednesdays and Fridays of each week (save for the special weeks in which we do not fast), but also on Mondays in honour of the Bodiless Powers, reflecting as they do constant glorification of God, readiness to do His bidding and complete abandon with respect to material cares etc.
St Michael became the patron of Kyivan Rus' and St Vladimir the Great wore his icon on his royal robes.
Alex
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Dear Alex, I have learned so much from your wealth of knowledge in the past...and JUST when I thought there was nothing else of interest I could learn: The Monday of each week, as we know, is dedicated to the honour of St Michael and the Archangels and all the Bodiless Powers. Actually, I did not know this, but am glad to learn it. I love the Archangel Michael, not only because I my baptismal name is celebrated on his feast day, but also because he is awesome in protecting us from all evil and danger when we call upon his name...and how comforting to know that we can officially dedicate the upcoming week to his heavenly protection. In Christ, Alice
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Dear Alice,
You are too kind!
When I was in France with "she who must be obeyed" I learned of Mont St Michel where St Michael is said to have appeared to the bishop there.
When the bishop wouldn't heed him, the Archangel is said to have placed a finger on his head and literally burned a hole in it.
The skull that is said to belong to the sainted bishop (have his name at home in a file but don't remember it) is in a case at the shrine there and it has a hole in it . . .
St Michael is also the patron of Toronto and we have a large colour portrait of him just downstairs from where I am now in the Ontario Legislature (together with that of St George, the patron of Ontario and a beautiful portrait of "Our Lady of the Lilies of Ontario").
Our Toronto Police force also has him as their patron, the wings of St Michael are on their crest, and one may purchase St Michael lapel pins, which many officers wear on their uniforms, in their souvenir shop!
In addition, the feast of St Michael and all the Bodiless Powers was chosen as November 8 (21 on the OC) based on numbers. "November" was formerly the ninth month of the year (ie. "Novem") and this represents the nine choirs of Angels. The number "8" represents the "8th day" of the return of Christ to the sound of the trumpets of the Archangel Michael.
In the Ukrainian tradition, it is said that it should snow on November 21st, St Michael's Day, because he rides "on a white horse."
Your servant,
Alex
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There is an old expresson: "Michael comes on a white horse." The proverb means that it can snow any time after that; we should be ready. I can remember the phrase in Slavonic or Rusyn, but I am afraid that I might butcher the spelling. Can anyone offer a good transliteration, and the correct spelling in Slavonic or Rusyn, or Ukrainian?
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Dear Reader Joseph,
Here is my Ukrainian rendering:
"Svyatey Mikha-yeel yide na bilomu koni."
Vshoho dobroho,
Vash,
Olesh
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