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Grrrr

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/a...y.transcript/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

Good gosh, that is truly classless. What kind of a person does that sort of thing. What kind of a judgment awaits a person who mocks the Mother of the Judge Himself? We should say a prayer for whomever is responsible for this.

Alexis

The director of playboy Raúl Sayrols is certainly not of Mexican origin.

They're trying to take control of the medias also in Mexico, that's why they are increasingly funding projects whose explicit intention is to mock and discredit the Christian faith and all what the Mexican people consider to be holy.

Another example of this is "Father Amaro's Crime", a movie shot by a certain film director named Valentin Pimstein, with scenes that are totally blasphemous and offensive to Christians (especially Catholics and Orthodox Christians).

What gets me is how they are denying and backtracking when the photo explicitly inserts itself into a traditional image of Our Lady. The association is not esoteric. It is a very common image in Mexico.

Terry

Sorry - I simply cannot see that...
and personally I don't think people who are looking at these things will care... If they do, they will not look at it.

I am scared more by the image of the "bad girls in that Catholic school" in every movie I watch... and the hints about that catholic priest who love little boys etc. ...

Explicit images are simply not scary nor are they interesting - a Child will not (hopefully) get any values/education from PlayBoy (thank God to a very limited access - adults can still choose what to believe and what to watch ...) Children, however, will be affected by the movies they watch with 1000000 of implicit hints about Christianity - and that is the scary part!

There is little in cover shots for high dollar magazines which remain unintentional. The editor obviously thought that framing the shot in Marian tones would serve as the best tease possible for the target audience.

It is a bold move and they deserve to be condemned for it. It would be silly to call for a boycott of a magazine a good Catholic wouldn't be caught with, but I can understand why Father Albert Cutie would be so offended by it.

Terry

True for the first part - but they can think as hard as they wish - as long as we do not cooperate an as long as we are not forced to have a look and think about it, this picture is meaningless and has no effect.
I am now forced to have a look at the picture - not only that - I even have an already guided imagination of to whom this image allude!

Condemn ?
On Earthly matters it is called the freedom of speech.
on Heavenly Matters - I believe The Judge is someone to be trusted.

Uuuhhhh, someone who is afraid to offend Muslims lest he lose his head, but is not afraid to offend Christians, especially Catholics and Orthodox because we don't use death for people who take aim at the Faith anymore.

BOB

I am sure you are not suggesting to do so dear Bob!

But let me tell you this: a few years ago the cable company here in Israel decided to have a campaign against Christians and broadcast a pornographic movie with the main hero being their own version of 'jesus'. (and there was a wide press campaign ... and the movie wasn't something that will be broadcast very late when only people waiting for such movies stay awake...)

I was young then, but I still remember older guys getting into their jeeps and banging every switchboard and standing piece of equipment in all Christian neighborhood. Even the cables were pulled out of the ground...
Adding to that massive peaceful marches were conducted - and many many good Christians have asked the company to come and take their equipment back because they are no longer interested in the companies services.

They still broadcast the movie. Now they will thing again after loosing millions and the trust of their clients.

Sometimes earthly justice is sweet ...
other times its just barbaric ...

I would love to have seen Christians leaving the equipment of that company safe but unused and to have conducted massive prayers over huge speakers just at the time of the movie at the windows of the CEOs of that company...

eli:

Not at all. I think we miss something in our communication. I was just making a comparison. There probably would have been some point in our history where that would have been the case, but it's not so today. I think the 20th century has taken the last bit of outrage out of Christians when their holy things are mocked. It's probably taken a lot of "all or nothing" out of our thinking, too, since we seem to do everything with so much restraint--compare our tendency to want to negotiate/talk everything to death and to enter conflicts with "rules of engagement" that put our people at risk. There isn't really much of an uproar about the desecration of the Eucharist that you can view on so many sites on YouTube and FaceBook.

BOB

Probably the worst things about all this are the temptations
against charity that it presents to us Christians. Our Lady
does not need our protection. She is who she is.

My own gut reaction is, of course, that someone should go kill
the SOBs and kill them slowly.This, however, is not in keeping
with the Gospel. Definitely a no-no. Christianity can be such
a difficult religion! Well, let us go do as Our Lord bade us and
pray for our enemies.

Edmac