With 2 Mods and 2 Admins now having found it necessary to raise cautions in this thread and considering that the initial point of inquiry has been addressed, this thread seems to have had its useful life. Given the season in which we presently are, celebrating or preparing to celebrate the Nativity, the best course of action for all our spiritual benefit appears to be its closure.

Thanks to all who participated charitably in the discussion.

Many years,

Neil

"One day all our ethnic traits ... will have disappeared. Time itself is seeing to this. And so we can not think of our communities as ethnic parishes, ... unless we wish to assure the death of our community."