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The new Syriac Catholic Patriarch of Antioch, His Beatitude Ignace Joseph III Younan, and the Bishops of the Syriac Catholic Church were received in audience today by His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI.

Following his election on January 20, Patriarch Ignace Joseph III Younan, in accordance with CCEO can. 76 § 2, sent a letter to Pope Benedict XVI asking for communio ecclesiastica. This was granted [212.77.1.245] by the Pope yesterday.

The Pope commented in his remarks [212.77.1.245] today that the granting of communio ecclesiastica to a newly elected Patriarch is "an aspect of the Petrine ministry which is particularly dear to me."

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The English translation of Pope Benedict XVI's remarks is now available at:

http://212.77.1.245/news_services/press/vis/dinamiche/d1_en.htm

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Please follow the link below to watch video of Pope Benedict XVI receiving Patriarch Ignace Joseph III and his entourage in audience today:

Benedict XVI: The Church has an Eastern face [h2onews.org]

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One thing I am confused on, looking back I see no Ignatius Joseph I or II:

Ignatius Andrew Akhidjan (1662-1677)
Ignatius Peter VI Khaahbadine (1677-1702)
Ignatius Dionysius Michael Jaroueh (1782-1800)
Ignatius Michael II Daher (1802-1810)
Ignatius Simon II Zora (1811-1818)
Ignatius Peter VII Jaroueh (1820-1851)
Ignatius Anthony I Samhery (1853-1864)
Ignatius Philip I Arcous (1866-1874)
Ignatius George Chalhat (1874-1891)
Ignatius Behnam II Behni (1893-1897)
Ignatius Dionysius Ephrem II Rahmani (1898-1929)
Ignatius Gabriel I Cardinal Tappouni (1929-1968)
Ignatius Anthony II Hayek (1968-1998)
Ignatius Moses I Daoud (1998-2001)
Ignatius Peter VIII Abdel-Ahad (2001-2008)
Ignatius Joseph III Younan (2009-Present)


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Another question
What is the correct term now - "Syriac" or "Syrian"?

Is "Syriac" now the politically correct term (because "Syrian" might be confused with the present day Arabic country of Syria?

I've noticed that in the article's titles etc. "Syriac" is used, but in the articles when they refer to the eparchies, they use "Syrian" in that (I think) VERY politically incorrect and (I think) philetist usage -- "...Antioch of the Syrians".

Herb

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Maybe Ignace Joseph I & II served before 1662?

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Wikipedia has a number of lists of patriarchs of Antioch. I am not sure, but I should think these would be relevant for numbering Syriac Catholic patriarchs:

Patriarchs of Antioch [en.wikipedia.org]

Syriac Orthodox Patriarchs of Antioch [en.wikipedia.org]

Syriac Catholic Patriarchs of Antioch [en.wikipedia.org]

However, these lists leave a lot of questions unanswered. For instance, I don't see how the Syriac Catholics suddenly got to Ignatius Peter VI when there are no signs of more than three Patriarchs named Peter before him. On the whole, the numbering does seem a bit random in some cases...

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Exactly, the Synod asked that in English the Church be referred to as Syriac so that it not be identified soley with Syria or thought to be Arab, as they identify themselves ethnically as Suryoyo (Syriac) not Arabic.

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dear Fr Lance:

Thanks! (makes good sense to me.)

Which Synod made this decision?

This one just past?

Or a prior one, and I just haven't kept up....?

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I think right after 9/11.


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Let us hope and pray they can sort out their internal problems now. They have a lot of work to do I suspect.

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Axios, Axios, Axios

On several occasions, during his tenure as Eparch of Our Lady of Deliverance of the Syriacs, he visited and served the Qurbono at our Melkite Cathedral in Boston (like many Melkite parishes, we have some parishioners of Syriac ancestry, lost by the Syriacs to the Melkites during the decades when there was no Syriac Catholic presence in the US). He is very pleasant and an excellent preacher.

Prayers for our Syriac brethren and their new Patriarch.

Many years,

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Originally Posted by Herbigny
Another question
What is the correct term now - "Syriac" or "Syrian"?

Is "Syriac" now the politically correct term (because "Syrian" might be confused with the present day Arabic country of Syria?

I've noticed that in the article's titles etc. "Syriac" is used, but in the articles when they refer to the eparchies, they use "Syrian" in that (I think) VERY politically incorrect and (I think) philetist usage -- "...Antioch of the Syrians".

Herb

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Maybe Ignace Joseph I & II served before 1662?

Joseph (790—792)

[There was also an unrecognized Latin Patriarch of Antioch named - Iosephus Melchiades Ferlisi (1858-1860)]

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Wikipedia has a number of lists of patriarchs of Antioch. I am not sure, but I should think these would be relevant for numbering Syriac Catholic patriarchs:

Patriarchs of Antioch [en.wikipedia.org]

Syriac Orthodox Patriarchs of Antioch [en.wikipedia.org]

Syriac Catholic Patriarchs of Antioch [en.wikipedia.org]

However, these lists leave a lot of questions unanswered. For instance, I don't see how the Syriac Catholics suddenly got to Ignatius Peter VI when there are no signs of more than three Patriarchs named Peter before him. On the whole, the numbering does seem a bit random in some cases...

My understanding of the numbering is as follows:

Peter the Apostle
Peter the Fuller (469/470-471), deposed
Peter the Fuller (476), reinstated and deposed
Peter the Fuller (485-488), reinstated
Peter III (581—591)
Ignatius Peter VI Khaahbadine (1677-1702)

[There were also two unrecognized Latin Patriarchs of Antioch - Peter II of Angouleme (1196-1208) and Peter III of Locedio (1209-1217)]

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I too could only find one Joseph (790—792).

Also it seems strange to count Peter the Fuller three times. Certainly Peter III (581—591) didn't do so smile

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