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Some of my Latin rite friends are trying to revive veiling in their parishes- we belong to a homeschool group that we attend their mass and they come to our litury are well. Its a great way for our children to learn about and feel comfortable in both areas of the Catholic Church. Anyway, their isn't anyone who does this in my area and I'm 35 and I don't remember it ever being done but I really like it. Is it something that was or is encouraged in the Byzantine or Orthodox traditions?
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mamaof4blessings:
Christ is in our midst!! He is and always will be!!
What are you referring to? Your question seems vague.
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My guess is that 'mamaof4lessings' is speaking of the custom of women wearing veils while inside the church. If she is, some do keep this custom (mostly older women) but for the most part the custom is no longer kept in most Byzantine Catholic parishes. There are sure to be exceptions, but I am speaking of the majority of parishes and women.
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I'm wondering why we dont practice this anymore.
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Some of my Latin rite friends are trying to revive veiling in their parishes- we belong to a homeschool group that we attend their mass and they come to our litury are well. Its a great way for our children to learn about and feel comfortable in both areas of the Catholic Church. Anyway, their isn't anyone who does this in my area and I'm 35 and I don't remember it ever being done but I really like it. Is it something that was or is encouraged in the Byzantine or Orthodox traditions?
Thanks for your input. I know of at least two younger-middle aged women (late 20s? early 30s?) who are exploring that. They wear a headscarf of sorts when at church services. They are also experimenting with wearing a headscarf outside of church. One is looking at entering the monastery, too . . . For both of them, wearing the headscarf is an attempt to express piety and modesty in a secular, oversexualized world. I don't know if wearing a veil / headscarf at church services will catch on among pious young women. But, I found it interesting that at least two youngish women already had done so. By the way, the woman who is considering the monastery is a member of the Orthodox Church, the other woman is in the process of converting to the Catholic Church. -- John
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The Old-Ritualists have a tradition of presenting the bride with a head-scarf just before the wedding; thereafter the newly-wed bride and other married women are expected to cover their heads in Church.
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In a number of the national costumes for women in Europe married women have their head covered while single women have their head uncovered, or the cap is distinctive from the head dress of married women.
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What is the history of the rules of head coverings?
How and when did this custom originate?
Here is what I know.
Women used to wear head coverings in Church.
Men always have removed their hats in Church.
EXCEPT
Bishops wear a miter in Church.
Additionally --- Jewish men wear yarmulkes in the synagogue.
Jewish women, as far as I know, are not required to cover their heads.
Historical background, anyone?
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Father, bless !
Father David, those are beautiful photos! Thank you for sharing them !
-- John
Last edited by Alice; 02/11/09 09:36 AM. Reason: wrong spelling of last name; eastern etiquette addresses priests by their first name
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Thank you so much Father for sharing these pictures. I noticed that the women are also wearing skirts- and skirts of appropriate length. I think it is so beautiful to see women dressing this way all the time but especially when they attend the Divine Liturgy. They have inspired me and given me the "push" I needed to follow my heart and start veiling also.
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The homeschool group we belong to in McKeeport PA tends to cover for Divine Liturgy and when in the Latin Rite. Also, many, but not all of us wear skirts all the time in public.
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Dear Father David,
Bless.
Very nice photos, indeed! May God bless you and your ministry and also your congregation!
I have absolutely no problem wearing a headscarf when visiting Russian churches... Infact, I sort of like it, and it is interesting how many different ways one can wear one...it feels 'out of the ordinary' and respectful and although one can still look nice wearing one, it allows for more humility and a lot less vanity.
It is never done in the Greek church, (except when visiting monasteries) but I cannot deny that there are times when I would feel more reverend if I could wear one, such as when having confession.
In Christ,
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Dear Alice, Thanks for your kind words. I like these photos very much. One of my daughters took them, so she is not in them, but my presbytera and two of my daughters are in them. Presbytera and the girls began covering their heads in church probably about 15 years ago when we were in the Antiochian Archdiocese. It was actually through the influence of Geronda Ephraim's monasteries, where they had to wear scarves. Presbytera, at first, was resistant to wearing a scarf in our parish where no one else wore them. She did not want to stand out from all the other women. She asked our spiritual father about it, and he said, "And what would our Panaghia do?" That settled it for her. Now, of course, in the Russian Church my family no longer stands out. On the other hand, our eldest daughter married a young man who was ordained a priest in the OCA. She persevered in wearing the head scarf there for a while, but apparently the environment in their OCA parish was so hostile to it that she stopped.  Group dynamics are powerful. When you say that no one wears the head scarf in Greek parish churches, do you mean here in North America? Is it not done at all in Greece? In Christ's Love, Fr David
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Fr. Bless! Is that you in the 8th and the 10th picture?  Inquiring minds want to know! Your unworthy son, Dr. Eric PS my 3 year-old wants "funny faces" on this post:   
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