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I have an odd question... The Latin Church has many religious orders, and some of these orders like the Franciscans have a 3rd order for lay people... Is their such a thing in the Byzantine Church? If so what are some?

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I know the Melkites have one ... but I can't remember anything about it.

Useless, aren't I, except to tell you that there IS such a thing.

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I know the Byzantine Franciscans had a 3rd order for laity.

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Thanks!

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I have another question... Are there Byzantine Jesuits?

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Three that I know of:

Father Archimandrite Robert Taft, SJ

Father Walter J. Ciszek, SJ

Father Richard Soo, SJ

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DrAnt,

There are Byzantine: Benedictines, Carmelites, Fransicans, Salesians, Redemptorists, Assumptionists, and Jesuits and most have third orders or associate programs for lay members.

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It was really great when I found out about Orthodox Benedictines and the Oblates for laypeople.

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Originally Posted by Two Lungs
Three that I know of:

Father Archimandrite Robert Taft, SJ

Father Walter J. Ciszek, SJ

Father Richard Soo, SJ

To that I will add: Fr. Thomas Sable, SJ, Fr. John Levko, SJ (I believe Fr. Thomas and Fr. John are still teaching at the University of Scranton.) & Fr. Maloney (of blessed memory) was a Jesuit before becoming Orthodox.

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Thanks so much!

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Originally Posted by Two Lungs
Three that I know of:

Father Archimandrite Robert Taft, SJ

Father Walter J. Ciszek, SJ

Father Richard Soo, SJ

To that I will add: Fr. Thomas Sable, SJ, Fr. John Levko, SJ (I believe Fr. Thomas and Fr. John are still teaching at the University of Scranton.) & Fr. Maloney (of blessed memory) was a Jesuit before becoming Orthodox.

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Fr. George Maloney sj was a prolific Catholic writer before becoming Orthodox. I have a book of his (published in India) about the Eucharist.

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Originally Posted by Job
Originally Posted by Two Lungs
Three that I know of:

Father Archimandrite Robert Taft, SJ

Father Walter J. Ciszek, SJ

Father Richard Soo, SJ

To that I will add: Fr. Thomas Sable, SJ, Fr. John Levko, SJ (I believe Fr. Thomas and Fr. John are still teaching at the University of Scranton.) & Fr. Maloney (of blessed memory) was a Jesuit before becoming Orthodox.

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Also add:
Father Stephen Hawkes-Teeples, S.J. who was the first Deacon Program director at Sts Cyril & Methodius Seminary.

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Originally Posted by DrAnt82
I have another question... Are there Byzantine Jesuits?

The Society has been heavily represented among the Byzantine Rite Churches, as well as other Eastern and Oriental Churches.

Father Alexis Floridi, SJ, of blessed memory, served Our Lady of Kazan Russian Greek-Catholic Chapel in South Boston.

Father Nicholai Bock, SJ, founded OL of Fatima Russian Greek-Catholic Church in San Francisco. Fathers Andrei Urusov (Russo), SJ, Karl Patzel, SJ, Theodor Bossuyt, SJ, John Geary, SJ, Steven Armstrong, SJ, and Mark Ciccone, SJ, have all served that parish. Over the years, another half-dozen Jesuits with biritual faculties have assisted in providing pastoral care there.

Fathers Fionan Brannigan, SJ, and Feodor Wilcock, SJ, were instrumental in founding the Russian Centre at Fordham and both later served St Andrew's Russian Greek-Catholic Church in El Segundo, CA, where Father John Ryder, SJ, had served as the second pastor. All of them served St Michael's Russian Greek-Catholic Church in New York at one time or another, as did Father Joseph Lombardi, SJ.

Jan Babjak, SJ, is Archbishop of Presov of the Byzantine Slovaks.

Father Antoun Labbad, SJ, is a Melkite Greek-Catholic and Eastern Christian chaplain at the Collège St. Louis de Gonzague in Paris.

Father Mitch Pacwa, SJ, of EWTN, has Maronite faculties.

Father Peter-Hans Kolvenbach, SJ, Emeritus Father General of the Society, was ordained to the service of the Armenian Catholic Church.

Bishop Antoine Audo, SJ, is Eparch of Aleppo of the Chaldeans;
Father Denis Como, SJ, Asst to the Patriarchal Vicar for Jordan, was ordained to the Chaldean Church about 40 years ago.

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It would appear that the Jesuits are the ones most open to Eastern Catholics. smile

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Byzantine Jesuits (like Father Maloney, eternal memory). I can't think of a more delightful combination. the Irish in me likes Jesuits (had a number of distant cousins who were Jesuit Priests). I enjoy Ignatius' catalogs.
at any rate, perhaps with the intellectual rigor of Jesuits combined with the great treasure of Eastern spirituality we can get things moving, stop wringing our hands, help adjust the attitudes of more than a few Latin Riters and revive the EC lung of American Catholicism. something needs to be done. I myself wouldn't mind a windfall that could send me to do a doctorate at Loyola and help in all of this.
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