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Wrong about the "near and dear" -- I have, however, become determined that this subject not be misrepresented (on this forum at least) as it has been in the past, and that rather blatantly. Whatever. Seems a bit obssessed to me.  Just winking speculation and as I understand it, something that would not be a problem. Okie doke!
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Wrong about the "near and dear" -- I have, however, become determined that this subject not be misrepresented (on this forum at least) as it has been in the past, and that rather blatantly. Whatever. Seems a bit obssessed to me. My word was "determined," but better to be obsessed with accurate data and an open mind than otherwise. To allow the kind of irresponsible misinformation as put forth on this calendar/Pascha topic to simply propagate unchecked (as seems to happen) would be itself a fault. I invite (as I have before) you and others to read the several threads link including the whole of this one, appraise how they started and developed, and then to fairly weigh the arguments.
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Father Serge is correct that there are those Christians who are not about to change the Paschalia. It's not about following the recommendations of Nicea since the East does not follow them. It's not about theology since Nicea offered recommendations and in no way raised the Julian Calendar to infallibility. It's not about sound science since one can look up and see the moon and its phase during Holy Week. It's all about emotions and people discard common sense as they cling to emotion. We see emotion so strong that some would even restrict the Lord from the miracle of the Holy Fire!
Perhaps some future generations will be able to do what Nicea accomplished. Nicea used the reigning civil calendar of the day to unite Christians on the celebration of the Resurrection. Let us pray for future unity and common witness, keep the emotions in check and stop restricting power of the Lord.
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My word was "determined," but better to be obsessed with accurate data and an open mind than otherwise. Lol! As opposed to determined or obesessed with inaccurate data and a closed mind. I invite (as I have before) you and others to read the several threads... I have read your arguments and reviewed your data...and guess what? I would never leave the Julian calendar in reference to Pascha. It fits Orthodoxy like a comfortable shoe. It is the Tradition that we know. And most of us will not be swayed toward the new calendar. If you think that is closed minded---so be it---you are just another voice in cyberspace in favor of the Gregorian calendar, spewing forth science and fact...and you are welcome to follow it. Peace
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We see emotion so strong that some would even restrict the Lord from the miracle of the Holy Fire! Is it true that the miracle of the Holy Fire will only ocurr on Holy and Great Saturday according to the Julian calendar?
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Recluse,
Not that I care to press the issue here, but some of us have our doubts about the "miracle of the Holy Fire" in the first place. But as I understand it, it only occurs on the Julian Calendar.
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We see emotion so strong that some would even restrict the Lord from the miracle of the Holy Fire! Is it true that the miracle of the Holy Fire will only ocurr on Holy and Great Saturday according to the Julian calendar? No, that is not true. The miracle of the Holy Fire can occur at the moment at which the Church celebrates the Resurrection. To say it cannot happen should the Church adjust her calendar is to say the Lord is restricted by a man-made calendar. That is very poor theology indeed! But your posts here have been uncharitable. You come across as a lamp warning people away from any Church that uses the Julian Calendar. The Julian Calendar should be an "oh, by the way we use the Julian Calendar". The way you speak one would think that the Julian Calendar is supreme to Christ in your thought and the Holy Tradition of your Church.
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