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After reading this, I am wondering if those Catholics and Orthodox who supported Obama, are still pleased with their choice.

SEBELIUS’ POLITICAL KICKBACK

Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius, nominated to be the next secretary of health and human services, vetoed a bill yesterday that would have placed new restrictions on third trimester abortions. Catholic League president Bill Donohue spoke to this issue today:

“The veto by Sebelius was a political kickback to Dr. George Tiller, the infamous abortion doctor who specializes in killing kids just before they are born (and in some cases when they are mostly born). It was also a clear rejection of women’s rights.

“Tiller is a long-time donor and friend of Sebelius, having greased her with so much dough that she can’t even remember how much he has forked up. All along he was buying protection from lawsuits, and yesterday he got what he wanted. Sebelius, like all pro-abortion Catholics, says she wants to reduce abortions, yet what she just did was to shield abortionists like Tiller from publicly stating why it is necessary to kill a kid after the 22nd week of pregnancy. Now he can go about his death trade willy nilly, without any accountability. Moreover, the bill would have allowed a woman to sue if she believed the abortionist lied to her about the need for a late-term abortion. So much for women’s rights.

“Sebelius seems incapable of shame. She waited until the 11th hour yesterday to deliver her body blow: she vetoed the bill at 4:45 p.m. on the 10th and last day before the clock ran out. And President Obama wants to put a person like this in charge of the nation’s healthcare? It just doesn’t get any dirtier than this.”

Isn't that an oxymoron?

I do not understand how any Catholic, or Orthodox for that matter, can possibly be pro-choice. This is totally opposite of what the church teaches ... how do they dismiss this? Are they what we would call Cafeteria Catholics? or Cafeteria Orthodox? I honestly don't understand. The specific reason I did not become R.C. rather than Orthodox was exactly because there were items in their beliefs that I just could not agree to ... how does one live with oneself fully knowing what their church believes and teaches, and totally believing and living the opposite? I don't know. I just know I couldn't.
abby
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It is certainly repulsive.

Oh, and to a much lesser extent, I find Mr. Donohue's informal wording a little repulsive as well, especially if this is supposed to be a press release and not an off-the-cuff spoken remark. But that's just me.

Alexis

Christ is Risen!! Indeed He is Risen!!

Actually this is one of the reasons I joined the Catholic League and contineu to support its work. Bill Donohue does what our bishops should be doing: pulling no punches in a culture war that is increasingly dirty and increasingly anti-Catholic and anti-Orthodox. It is precisely the fact that we have so many people calling themselves Catholic and supporting positions in public that are totally contrary to Church teaching that we need an organization like the Catholic league, not to mention the fact that there are so many attacks on individual Catholics in so many areas that the Catholic League helps to fight. Their annual anti-Catholic report is hair-raising reading and documents so many fights in which Catholics are trageted just for trying to live out their faith.

This type of problem--Catholics taking public positions contrary to Church teaching--is at the center of a discussion we had at my men's study group. Where is the formal excommunication of yesteryear?

BOB

I see you are from Maryland. Have you discussed this matter with Senator Paul Sarbanes?

Fr. Serge

Bob,

I think the Catholic League does great work indeed. I just have a penchant for something a little more formal if it's going to be press-released. It seems to me to be less...amateur?

Alexis

Oh, dear Father Serge, you are naughty!!

Bill Donahue may be a bit 'rough around the edges', but I suppose in today's media world, anything different might not be effective. He does good work.

There is good news, and there is bad news.

The good news is Sen Sarbanes is now retired.

The bad news is Sen. Ben Cardin is no improvement.

Sen. Mikulski is no better.

Nor Gov. O'Malley.

Alexis:

Bill Donohue is a street fighter. Street fighters don't fight by formal rules--like a duel. In a street fight, you get in, get done what needs to be done, and get out alive before the other guy.

In his defense, Bill Donohue is well-educated. His style is meant to draw attention and it does it very well.

BOB

I have heard it said that "us older guys" came from the John Wayne era...

Don't have a clue where or who the younger generation gets their role model...

But he has yet to learn the cardinal lesson of showbiz: There is no such thing as bad publicity. Very often, movies that would have closed the first week or gone straight to DVD get a second life because of his strident opposition to them. Needs to learn about sleeping dogs.