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This is pretty scary stuff. From: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,,25361297-7583,00.html?from=public_rss Thought police muscle up in Britain
Hal G. P. Colebatch | April 21, 2009
Article from: The Australian
BRITAIN appears to be evolving into the first modern soft totalitarian state. As a sometime teacher of political science and international law, I do not use the term totalitarian loosely.
There are no concentration camps or gulags but there are thought police with unprecedented powers to dictate ways of thinking and sniff out heresy, and there can be harsh punishments for dissent.
Nikolai Bukharin claimed one of the Bolshevik Revolution's principal tasks was "to alter people's actual psychology". Britain is not Bolshevik, but a campaign to alter people's psychology and create a new Homo britannicus is under way without even a fig leaf of disguise.
The Government is pushing ahead with legislation that will criminalise politically incorrect jokes, with a maximum punishment of up to seven years' prison. The House of Lords tried to insert a free-speech amendment, but Justice Secretary Jack Straw knocked it out. It was Straw who previously called for a redefinition of Englishness and suggested the "global baggage of empire" was linked to soccer violence by "racist and xenophobic white males". He claimed the English "propensity for violence" was used to subjugate Ireland, Scotland and Wales, and that the English as a race were "potentially very aggressive".
In the past 10 years I have collected reports of many instances of draconian punishments, including the arrest and criminal prosecution of children, for thought-crimes and offences against political correctness.
Countryside Restoration Trust chairman and columnist Robin Page said at a rally against the Government's anti-hunting laws in Gloucestershire in 2002: "If you are a black vegetarian Muslim asylum-seeking one-legged lesbian lorry driver, I want the same rights as you." Page was arrested, and after four months he received a letter saying no charges would be pressed, but that: "If further evidence comes to our attention whereby your involvement is implicated, we will seek to initiate proceedings." It took him five years to clear his name.
Page was at least an adult. In September 2006, a 14-year-old schoolgirl, Codie Stott, asked a teacher if she could sit with another group to do a science project as all the girls with her spoke only Urdu. The teacher's first response, according to Stott, was to scream at her: "It's racist, you're going to get done by the police!" Upset and terrified, the schoolgirl went outside to calm down. The teacher called the police and a few days later, presumably after officialdom had thought the matter over, she was arrested and taken to a police station, where she was fingerprinted and photographed. According to her mother, she was placed in a bare cell for 3 1/2 hours. She was questioned on suspicion of committing a racial public order offence and then released without charge. The school was said to be investigating what further action to take, not against the teacher, but against Stott. Headmaster Anthony Edkins reportedly said: "An allegation of a serious nature was made concerning a racially motivated remark. We aim to ensure a caring and tolerant attitude towards pupils of all ethnic backgrounds and will not stand for racism in any form."
A 10-year-old child was arrested and brought before a judge, for having allegedly called an 11-year-old boya "Paki" and "bin Laden" during a playground argument at a primary school (the other boy had called him a skunk and a Teletubby). When it reached the court the case had cost taxpayers pound stg. 25,000. The accused was so distressed that he had stopped attending school. The judge, Jonathan Finestein, said: "Have we really got to the stage where we are prosecuting 10-year-old boys because of political correctness? There are major crimes out there and the police don't bother to prosecute. This is nonsense."
Finestein was fiercely attacked by teaching union leaders, as in those witch-hunt trials where any who spoke in defence of an accused or pointed to defects in the prosecution were immediately targeted as witches and candidates for burning.
Hate-crime police investigated Basil Brush, a puppet fox on children's television, who had made a joke about Gypsies. The BBC confessed that Brush had behaved inappropriately and assured police that the episode would be banned.
A bishop was warned by the police for not having done enough to "celebrate diversity", the enforcing of which is now apparently a police function. A Christian home for retired clergy and religious workers lost a grant because it would not reveal to official snoopers how many of the residents were homosexual. That they had never been asked was taken as evidence of homophobia.
Muslim parents who objected to young children being given books advocating same-sex marriage and adoption at one school last year had their wishes respected and the offending material withdrawn. This year, Muslim and Christian parents at another school objecting to the same material have not only had their objections ignored but have been threatened with prosecution if they withdraw their children.
There have been innumerable cases in recent months of people in schools, hospitals and other institutions losing their jobs because of various religious scruples, often, as in the East Germany of yore, not shouted fanatically from the rooftops but betrayed in private conversations and reported to authorities. The crime of one nurse was to offer to pray for a patient, who did not complain but merely mentioned the matter to another nurse. A primary school receptionist, Jennie Cain, whose five-year-old daughter was told off for talking about Jesus in class, faces the sack for seeking support from her church. A private email from her to other members of the church asking for prayers fell into the hands of school authorities.
Permissiveness as well as draconianism can be deployed to destroy socially accepted norms and values. The Royal Navy, for instance, has installed a satanist chapel in a warship to accommodate the proclivities of a satanist crew member. "What would Nelson have said?" is a British newspaper cliche about navy scandals, but in this case seems a legitimate question. Satanist paraphernalia is also supplied to prison inmates who need it.
This campaign seems to come from unelected or quasi-governmental bodies controlling various institutions, which are more or less unanswerable to electors, more than it does directly from the Government, although the Government helps drive it and condones it in a fudged and deniable manner.
Any one of these incidents might be dismissed as an aberration, but taken together - and I have only mentioned a tiny sample; more are reported almost every day - they add up to a pretty clear picture.
Hal G. P. Colebatch's Blair's Britain was chosen as a book of the year by The Spectator in 1999. The only thing I would disagree with is the Satanism part. As scary as that sounds, I suppose if a ship had enough Satanists demanding a chapel, they shouldn't be treated differently than any other religious group. As long as there was an allowance for people who didn't wish to be stationed on a ship with a Satanic chapel to be reassigned elsewhere (I'd be one of them). Alexis
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Well - some of those examples are news to me  But it has become difficult at times to deal with things . We do not discriminate against any longer - we positively discriminate for But then - I'm sure that we all have examples of this sort of thing 
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Where there are thought crimes, the prisons will bulge.
When the prisons bulge too much, the truly dangerous go free.
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The Irony is, this happens as Bitain transforms into a 21st Century Deocracy... Supposedly, in conventiolan wisdom, the more Democratic the naiton, the mroe free, but when the Lords were indpeendant and hereditary and the Crown had real pwoer, the British peopels where mroe free htan under the leadrship of elected officials, with a reduced, pwerless Lords, soon ot be an elected Senate, and a Crown that jt smiles and waves.
Britain has been taken over by the Politically Correct, and needs to reject this, and restore herself to God through Christ as a Chrustian Naiton, and gain again her freedom in due civility and respect.
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Zarove,
I completely concur.
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Absolute monarchy is getting more and more attractive...
Isn't there a proviso for Elizabeth II to assume real political power once more? Having a Christian monarch is better than having all these politically correct bozos.
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Elizabeth? Not my idea of a Christian monarch, or a monarch at all. Bring back the Stuarts!
As for Wales, Scotland, and Ireland, it is all too true that the English used violence to subjugate these countries.
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The Stuarts? Just a bunch of Scots upstarts who owe their position to marrying into a family of usurpers in the first place. A Plantagenet is what you want.
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The only thing I would disagree with is the Satanism part. As scary as that sounds, I suppose if a ship had enough Satanists demanding a chapel, they shouldn't be treated differently than any other religious group. As long as there was an allowance for people who didn't wish to be stationed on a ship with a Satanic chapel to be reassigned elsewhere (I'd be one of them).
Alexis Alexis, The problem is that you are looking at this through the lens of "religious equality" when in fact Satanism while categorized as a "religion" is in essence a system of beliefs which undermine the foundation of society and its belief in honoring and serving our divine Creator. The City of Man has a fundamental religious obligation to serve God. Satanism is at the service of the one who is in opposition to God - non serviam. It cannot and should not be treated as a religious equal for the good of society, especially a society bound by oaths to God at every level of governance. My two cents... Deacon
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Dear Stuart,
Have you a specific Plantagenet heir in mind? Henry VIII was very efficient when it came to killing off Plantagenets.
Fr. Serge
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He only finished what dear old dad began. But the judicial murder of septugenarian Margaret Pole (Clarence's daughter) just because her son Reginald was made a Cardinal was particularly loathsome. I am sure there must be a Plantagenet out there somewhere, just as I am sure that the blood of the Paleologi still flows as well.
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There must be Plantagenets out there somewhere. Elizabeth of York was a Plantagenet, her sisters had kids and I don't think they were killed, so they must be around somewhere.
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The blood of the Paleologi does show up here and there. But the Plantagenets are a special case. Henry VII and VIII made exterminating them a lifelong project.
Not, mind you, that Henry II (the progenitor of the Plantagenets in England) was any prize package either.
Somehow the Stuarts seem like a better bet. They still have a serious base in Scotland.
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The idea of the Stuarts regianign tyhe thrne has a certain appeal to me. I love the King James Bible for example, and besides, Im decended from them, so perhaps I can be in the Gentry...
...That aside, I'd not mind the PResnent Queen, she seems good, she just has little to do and complies weakly with Parliment, which is run by Polliticlaly Correct Neo-Coommunists.
If she, or her son the Prince of Wales, woudl show a bit mroe courage, and had the Lords not been reformed ( Or the reforms reversed) we coudl see a good deal of improvement.
However, with the way things are people just automaticlaly assume Democracy solves all problems and hwen new social probkems emerge, the solution is to toss more Democrayc at it, that or mroe money.
But, in addition to resoting the Prper order, we need moral people to liv ein it. Britain was at its best when it wa spius. Modern, Secular Britain has no culture and is fast ding, as is the rest of Europe. THey need to go back to God and his ways, restor ethemselves, and hten rebuiltd their gloriosu society iwht Gods guidance and blessing.
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To quote a famous song by the Kinks, "There's no England anymore."
Recently they banned US Radio Talk Show Host Michael Savage from entering the country.
It is really painful to watch Britain fall.
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