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Xhristos Voshreski! Came across an article from a French website which seems to purport that Bishop Basil of Sergeivo of the MP Archdiocese of Sourouzh (formerly led by the late Metropolitan Antony (Bloom)) has made a request to the MP that it be allowed to the EP's jurisiction: http://www.orthodoxie.com/2006/05/mgr_basile_de_s.html Hmm...has anyone heard about this or is it some romour that has been given shape? Anton
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He is Risen Indeed.
This is not a rumour. Discussions have been going on for over a year, but this was kept quiet.
I presume it is the reason for one of the patriarchal priests joining ROCOR and that, in turn, the prospect of union with ROCOR Abp Mark of Berlin is driving Sourozh to join 'Rue Daru' and quit the Moscow Patriarchate.
Spasi Khristos -
Mark, monk and sinner.
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Dear AntonI, Christ is Risen!
Being presently in Europe, and just having met with Archbishop Gabriel of Comana earlier this week, this is not a rumor but is actually happening. There are a number of documents that have been released in the past two days including the request for release from Bishop Basil, the letter to the Ecumenical Patriarch and an info sheet that was distributed to all the diocesan clergy. I believe that all of these documents can be found online in English and French.
I was given a complete dossier of the documents that have been published to date. I may be able to give you some more information later next week when I meet with the archbishop again.
In the Risen Christ,
Father Anthony+
Everyone baptized into Christ should pass progressively through all the stages of Christ's own life, for in baptism he receives the power so to progress, and through the commandments he can discover and learn how to accomplish such progression. - Saint Gregory of Sinai
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Dear Father,
Many thanks for your interesting message. I wish you good meeting next week! Out of curiousity, how come they decided to join the the EP under Archbishop Gabriel and not Archbishop Gregory in UK?
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Anton
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AntonI, Christ is Risen!
You really have to read the documents to have a good understanding of the situation.
In the Risen Christ,
Father Anthony+
Everyone baptized into Christ should pass progressively through all the stages of Christ's own life, for in baptism he receives the power so to progress, and through the commandments he can discover and learn how to accomplish such progression. - Saint Gregory of Sinai
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Indeed He is Risen!
And I hear you hehe...will do some checking. Tried doing some but have been unable to find any....do you have anywhere to point me towards (and sadly, I don't speak French!)?
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AntonI, Christ is Risen!
If you PM me, I should be able to point you to some places after checking some sources here. Right now I have the documents in hard copy, but most I believe came from Internet sources. Just be patient with me please as I am working from my notebook instead of my normal computer.
In the Risen Christ,
Father Anthony+
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Father Anthony,
Out of curiosity, is the liturgical language one of the issues?
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Ok, I've read the MP requires Church Slavonic in Russia, but in the USA, obviously English is used in MP parishes. Perhaps language isn't an issue? Perhaps I shouldn't guess.
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The late Metropolitan Anthony over many years presented Orthodoxy to a bigger audience by his programs on BBC TV & Radio. His presence at import occasions kept him in the limelight so to speak. Orthodoxy was a topic that because of people like him that was suddenly discussed widely. HB took Orthodoxy out of the area of migrant chaplains and ethnic ghettos to all nations.
I recall a TV series he did with Bishop Kallistos on the Holy Mountain about 30 years ago that was fantastic. It was great to have 2 Orthodox bishops explaining their faith and the lives of the monks on Athos as well as it's history and governance. I just wish I was able to get copies of the series.
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Originally posted by ebed melech:
Father Anthony,
Out of curiosity, is the liturgical language one of the issues?
Gordo Christ is Risen! Actually, language is one of several issues on this matter. I would give a fuller reply in about a day. Right now I am at the airport in Paris awaiting my flight home. Until then, In the Risen Christ, Father Anthony+
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Oh dear...
Yesterday, just before the Divine Liturgy, Archbishop Innokentii of Korsun read out a decree from Patriarch Alexis, which stripped Bishop Basil from his duties as administrator of the diocese and effectively send him into retirement.
He has been forbidded to join another Patriarchate until Archbishop Innokentii has led a commission to understand what was going on in the diocese. The Bishop has disagreed with this strongly and has consequently said that he is appealing to the Ecumenical Patriarchate under Canons 9 and 17 of Chalcedon.
I foresee lawyers getting involved on the property issues and this will probably acceberate the already frosty relations between the EP and MP.
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Originally posted by Father Anthony: Originally posted by ebed melech:
[b] Father Anthony,
Out of curiosity, is the liturgical language one of the issues?
Gordo
Actually, language is one of several issues on this matter. I would give a fuller reply in about a day. Right now I am at the airport in Paris awaiting my flight home. Until then,
In the Risen Christ,
Father Anthony+ [/b]Indeed He is Risen! Safe travels, Father. I await your reflections on the matter. God bless, Gordo
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Here is some further information: http://www.dioceseinfo.org/ Incognitus
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