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#327413 07/14/09 02:54 PM
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It looks like we may if we update be forced to do things more online. Microsoft announce for their 2010 relase the following.

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BBc technology story [news.bbc.co.uk]

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Microsoft Office takes to the web
By Maggie Shiels
Technology reporter, BBC News, Silicon Valley

Microsoft has fired its latest salvo at Google, announcing a free web-based version of its Office software.

Office 2010 will include lightweight versions of Word, Excel, PowerPoint and OneNote when it ships next year.

The new web offering will compete with Google's free online Docs suite launched three years ago.

Last week Google took aim at Windows with news of a free operating system while in June Microsoft introduced a new search engine called Bing.

"We believe the web has a lot to offer in terms of connectivity," Microsoft's group product manager for Office told the BBC.

"We have over a half a billion customers world-wide and what we hear from them is that they really want the power of the web without compromise. They want collaboration without compromise.

"And what they tell us today is that going to the web often means they sacrifice fidelity, functionality and the quality of the content they care about. We knew that if and when we were ever going to bring applications into a web environment, we needed to do the hard work first because we hold such a high bar," said Mr Bryant.

Microsoft said that 400 million customers who are Windows Live consumers will have access to the Office web applications at no cost.

At a conference for business partners in New Orleans, Microsoft announced an early release of web-apps to thousands of testers later this year.

At the end of the year the company expects to release a proper public beta for the software and ship a final version off to PC makers in the first half of 2010.

'Conversion'

Analysts have mostly given the thumbs up to Microsoft for moving some of its applications to the web, even if it might cost them dearly.

The Wall Street Journal has estimated that offering free online software could "put at risk as much at $4bn (£2.46bn) in revenue".

One analyst told the paper that despite such losses, it could be a canny move.

"Making sure people are still using Microsoft products is more important" in the short term than risking revenue, explained Piper Jaffray analyst Gene Munster.

"They need to keep people using Office," he said.

"Microsoft is finally making the conversion through the web-based world. First, we saw that through Bing. Now we are seeing that through Office, " said Jeffries & Co analyst Katherine Egbert.

"The software giant has woken up, " wrote Emil Protalinksi of online blog Arcs Technica.

"It is promising to know that such a traditional software company is responding to the 'threat of the cloud' to its core business by embracing it."

Investors appeared to like Microsoft's move and boosted shares by almost 3.8% higher to close at $23.23 (£14.33).

Rivalry

Microsoft's announcement is being seen as the latest move in a tit-for-tat rivalry between two tech giants as it and Google increasingly make efforts to encroach on one another's turf.

When Google announced its Chrome operating system last week, the blogosphere watched and waited for Microsoft to react.

Mr Bryant stuck to the company line when he spoke to BBC News.

"I haven't seen the product. I think it's not a trivial engineering investment to go and build an operating system," he said. "Of course it is interesting and there is a lot of talk but until we see the product, it's hard to say what kind of impact it will have.

"We can't afford to get wrapped up in hype or buzz or noise because really our customers depend on us every single day."

Microsoft's business software division, which includes Office, made $9.3 bn (£5.74bn) in profit from $14.3 bn(£8.82bn) in sales during the first three-quarters of its 2009 fiscal year.


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As long as what you are using can be used why change ?

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Some have offices and IT departments that upgrade regularly, that is why. Though this news may not have my IT department rushing to do this upgrafe if it is true for several reasons.

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Only heaven knows what motives Microsoft has and why they do the things they do. I was just reading something that said Microsoft is not attempting to knock off Google with its introduction of Bing. It's trying to knock Yahoo out of the number two slot. Those MS guys are clever. I would hold on to my wallet when they are around. wink

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As big as it is, Microsoft may well have the tiger by the tail here.

The market isn't so much for Word & Excel but for a program that easily uses Word & Excel files. With some quite notable exceptions, Word/Excel are usually the easiest way to do that (StarOffice/OpenOffice has had better compatibility with other versions of Word/Excel files than the newest version of the same program for years).

Anyway, google offers online programs that can manipulate simple word files. OpenOffice is easily available free, and Google distribures StarOffice free. Microsoft *has* to have a line of access to the people that don't need the whole thing.

On the other hand, that simplified version will be enough for a great many people. Even worse (for Microsoft), people will make documents that use that subset . . .]

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As far as Corporate America is concerned, Google is a non-starter due to governance, risk and compliance deficiencies. Google may gain some of the domestic market, but even with this segment, there are so many tertiary factors & compatibility issues which will limit it's use that it is unlikely to gain any signicant market share.

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Corporate usage of such machines is far down the line, definitely. At least as currently proposed, it will not displace corporate machines, home desktops, or even mainstream laptops.

I give it a good shot at taking a huge share of netbook & similar things. It could spread from there, or it could not.

Or it could end up partnered with Sun's version of the future as the thin client on the desktop . . .

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