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This is a very toughly worded document. I am frankly reluctant to post it here, but I think that it is worth discussion since it does reflect the views of many in the Orthodox world. There are parts I agree with, but there is also quite a bit I am uncomfortable with, beginning with the dearth of agape.

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From the Convention of Orthodox Clergymen and Monks April 2009

Translated from Greek by www.OODEGR.COM [oodegr.com]

Those of us who by the Grace of God have been raised with the dogmas of piety and who follow in everything the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church, believe that:

The sole path to salvation of mankind [i] is the faith in the Holy Trinity, the work and the teaching of our Lord Jesus Christ, and their continuance within His Body, the Holy Church. Christ is the only true Light [ii]; there are no other lights to illuminate us, nor any other names that can save us: «Salvation is not within anything else; nor is there any other name under the heavens that has been given to mankind, in which we can be saved» [iii]. All other beliefs, all religions that ignore and do not confess Christ “having come in the flesh” [iv], are human manufacturings and works of the Devil, [v] which do not lead to the true knowledge of God and rebirth through divine Baptism, but instead, mislead men and lead them to perdition. As Christians who believe in the Holy Trinity, we do not have the same God as any other religion, nor with the so-called monotheistic religions, Judaism and Mohammedanism, which do not believe in the Holy Trinity.

For two thousand years, the Christ-founded and Holy Spirit-guided Church has remained stable and unshakeable in the salvific Truth that was taught by Christ, delivered by the Holy Apostles and preserved by the Holy Fathers. She did not buckle under the cruel persecutions by the Judeans initially and later by idolaters during the first three centuries; She brought forth a host of martyrs and came out victorious, thus proving Her divine origin. As Saint John the Chrysostom beautifully expressed it: «Nothing is stronger than the Church… if you fight against a man, you either conquer or are conquered; but if you fight against the Church, it is not possible for you to win, for God is the strongest of all» [vi].

Following the cessation of the persecutions and the triumph of the Church over Her external enemies – in other words, the Judeans and the idolaters – the internal enemies of the Church began to multiply and strengthen. A variety of heresies began to appear, which endeavoured to overthrow and adulterate the delivered faith so that the faithful would become confused, and their trust in the truth of the Gospel and traditions be debilitated. In outlining the ecclesiastic state of affairs that the prevalence for over 40 years – even administratively – that the heresy of Arius had created, Saint Basil the Great says: «The dogmas of the Fathers have been entirely disregarded, the apostolic traditions withered, the inventions of younger people are observed in the Churches; people are therefore technologizing when they should be theologizing; the wisdom of the world seems to be pushing aside the boasting in the Cross. Pastors are sent away, and in their place are inserted harsh wolves, who disperse Christ’s flock» [vii].

Whatever happened to the external enemies – religions – also happened to the internal ones – heresies. Through major and enlightened Holy Fathers, the Church demarcated and entrenched the Orthodox faith with decisions by Local and Ecumenical Synods (Councils) in the cases of specific, dubious teachings, but with the agreement of all the Fathers (Consensus Patrum), on all the matters of the Faith. We are therefore safe, when we follow the Holy Fathers and do not move the boundaries that they had set. The expressions «Following after our Holy Fathers» and «Not withdrawing the boundaries that our Fathers had set» constitute a steady, straight course and a safety valve for the Orthodox faith and way of life. Consequently, the basic positions of our Confession are the following:

1. We maintain, irremovably and without alteration, everything that the Synods and the Fathers have instituted. We accept everything that they accept and condemn everything that they condemn; we furthermore avoid communication with those who innovate on matters of the Faith. We neither add, nor remove, any teaching, nor do we alter it. Already, the God-bearing Saint Ignatius of Antioch in his epistle to Saint Polycarp of Smyrna had written: «Anyone who says contrary to what has been decreed – even if he is trustworthy, even if he fasts, even if he is celibate, even if he performs signs, let him appear to you as a wolf in a sheep’s hide, aspiring to the corruption of the sheep». Saint John the Chrysostom in interpreting the Apostle Paul’s words “should anyone evangelize to you something that was not delivered to you, let him be anathema”, he observes that the Apostle “did not say if they should proclaim something contrary or if they should overturn everything, but that even if they should evangelize even the smallest thing that has not been delivered to you, even if they should prompt it, let them be anathema” [viii]. Upon announcing its decisions against the Iconoclasts to the clergy of Constantinople, the 7th Ecumenical Synod wrote: «We have followed the tradition of the Catholic Church, and have not made any omission or any redundancy, but, having been taught in the apostolic manner, we maintain the traditions that we received, accepting and respecting everything that the Holy Catholic Church has received from the first years, unwritten and written… for the true and straightforward judgment of the Church does not make any allowance for innovations within Her, or for attempts to remove anything. We, therefore, by following the laws of our Fathers, having received grace by the one Spirit, have duly safeguarded without any innovations and reductions, all the things of the Church» [ix].

Along with the Holy Fathers and the Synods, we too reject and anathematize all the heresies that appeared during the historical course of the Church. Of the old heresies that have survived to this day, we condemn Arianism (still surviving, in the pseudo-Witnesses of Jehovah) and Monophysitism – the extreme form of Eutychius and the more moderate form of Sevirus and Dioscorus – according to the decisions of the 4th Ecumenical Synod of Chalcedon and the Christological teaching of major Holy Fathers and Teachers such as Saint Maximus the Confessor, Saint John of Damascus, Photios the Great and the hymns of our worship.

2. We proclaim that Papism is the womb of heresies and fallacies. The teaching of the “Filioque” – that is, the procession of the Holy Spirit AND from the Son – is contrary to everything that Christ Himself taught about the Holy Spirit. The entire chorus of Fathers, both in Synods and individually, regard Papism as a heresy because apart from the Filioque, it produced a host of other fallacies, such as the primacy and the infallibility of the Pope, the unleavened bread (host), the fires of Purgatory, the immaculate conception of the Theotokos, created Grace, the purchasing of absolution (indulgences)… it has altered nearly all of the teaching and the practice pertaining to Baptism, Chrismation, the Divine Eucharist and the other Sacraments, and has converted the Church to a secular State.

Contemporary Papism has deviated even further than medieval Papism from the teaching of the Church, to the extent that it no longer comprises a continuance of the ancient Church of the West. It has introduced a swarm of new exaggerations in its “Mariology”, such as the teaching that the Theotokos is a parallel redeemer (corredemptrix) of the human race. It has reinforced the “Charismatic Movement” of Pentecostal (supposedly Spirit-centered) groups. It has adopted further innovations to Divine Worship, such as dances and musical instruments. It has shortened and essentially ruined the Divine Liturgy. In the area of Ecumenism it has set down the bases for the Pan-religion with its 2nd Vatican Council, by recognizing “spiritual life” in the people of other religions. Dogmatic minimalism has led it to a minimizing of moral prerequisites, on account of the bond between dogma and morality, the result of which was the moral failures of leading clergymen and an increase in moral deviations such as homosexuality and pedophilia among clergymen [x]. By continuing to support “Unia” – that caricature of Orthodoxy with which it victimizes and proselytizes faithful – Papism is sabotaging the Dialogue and is contradicting its supposedly sincere intentions for union.

Generally speaking, there has been a radical change in Papism and a turn towards Protestantism after the 2nd Vatican Council, and even an adopting of various “spiritual” movements of the “New Age”.

According to Saint Simeon of Thessaloniki, the Mystagogue, Papism caused more damage to the Church than all the heresies and schisms put together. We Orthodox have communion with the pre-Schism Popes and we commemorate many Popes as saints. The post-Schism popes are heretics; they have ceased to be successors to the throne of Rome; they no longer have Apostolic succession, because they no longer have the faith of the Apostles and the Fathers. It is for this reason that with each such pope, «not only do we have no communion, but we also call him a heretic». On account of their blasphemy against the Holy Spirit with their teaching of the Filioque, they forfeited the presence of the Holy Spirit and therefore everything of theirs is deprived of Grace. Not one of their sacraments is valid, according to Saint Simeon. «Therefore the innovators are blaspheming and are far away from the Spirit, by blaspheming against the Holy Spirit, hence everything of theirs is Grace-less, inasmuch as they have violated and have demoted the Grace of the Spirit… which is why the Holy Spirit is not among them, and there is nothing spiritual about them, as everything theirs is new and altered and contrary to divine tradition» [xi].

3. The same things apply to an even greater degree to Protestantism, which as the offspring of Papism has inherited many heresies, but has also added many more; It has rejected Tradition, accepting only the Holy Bible (Sola Scriptura) which it however misinterprets; it has abolished Priesthood as a specialized sacramental Grace, as well as the veneration of Saints and of holy icons; it has vilified the Person of the Holy Mother Theotokos; it has rejected Monasticism; of the Holy Sacraments, it accepts only Baptism and the Divine Eucharist, albeit altering in them also the teaching and the praxis of the Church; it teaches absolute predestination (Calvinism) and vindication only through faith. Furthermore, its more “progressive” sector has introduced Priesthood for women and marriage between homosexuals – who they even accept into the Priesthood. But above all, it lacks ecclesiology, because the notion of Church as perceived by the Orthodox Tradition is nonexistent to them.

4. The only way that our communion with heretics can be restored is if they renounce their fallacy and repent, so that there may be a true union and peace: a union with the Truth, and not with fallacy and heresy. For the incorporation of heretics into the Church, canonical precision requires that they be accepted through Baptism. Their previous “baptism”, performed outside the Church without the triple immersion and emersion of the one being baptized in specially sanctified water, and performed by a non-Orthodox priest, is in no way a baptism. It lacks the Grace of the Holy Spirit (Who does not remain within schisms and heresies) and as such, we have nothing in common that unites us, as Basil the Great points out: «As for those who have distanced themselves from the Church, they no longer have the grace of the Holy Spirit upon them, for transmission has ceased with those who have interrupted the succession… as for the ones who have broken away, who have now become laity, they no longer have the authority to either baptize, or ordain by the placing of their hands, being now unable to provide the grace of the Holy Spirit, from which (grace) they have fallen away» [xii].

That is why the new attempt by Ecumenists to project the position that we have a common baptism with heretics is unfounded and hanging in mid-air, as is their assertion that it is possible to support the unity of the Church with this nonexistent baptismal unity, which supposedly exists wherever a baptism may exist [xiii]. In the Church however, one enters and becomes Her member, not with just any baptism, but only with the one, uniformly performed Baptism, officiated by Priests who have received the Priesthood of the Church.

5. For as long as heretics continue to remain in their fallacy, we avoid communion with them, especially in common prayer. The holy canons in their entirety prohibit not only common officiating and in-temple common praying, but even ordinary prayers in private quarters. The Church’s strict stance opposite heretics springs from true love and sincere concern for their salvation, and out of Her pastoral care that the faithful are not carried away by heresies. Whosoever loves, reveals the truth and does not leave the other in a falsehood; otherwise, any love and agreement with him would only be counterfeit and false. There is such a thing as a good war and a bad peace. «…for a praiseworthy war is superior to a peace that separates one from God» says Saint Gregory the Theologian [xiv]. And Saint John the Chrysostom recommends: «If you should see devoutness vitiated, do not prefer the harmony of a truth, but stand fast to the death… betraying the truth nowhere». And elsewhere, he recommends with emphasis: «Do not acknowledge any illegitimate dogma that has the pretext of love»[xv]. This stance of the Fathers was also adopted by the major defender and confessor of the Orthodox faith against the Latins, Saint Mark of Ephesus, who concluded his own Confession of Faith in Florence with the following words: «All the teachers of the Church, all the synods and all the divine Scriptures exhort us to keep away from those with other beliefs, and to refrain from communion with them. Therefore, am I to disregard them all, and follow those who under the pretense of a manufactured peace strive for union? Those, who have counterfeited the sacred and divine Symbol (Creed) and who introduced the Son as the second cause of the Holy Spirit? [...] May this never happen to us, o benevolent Paraclete (Comforter), and may I never fall away from my own duteous thoughts, but, by following Your teaching and the blessed men who were inspired by You, may I be added to my fathers, by bringing in, if nothing else, this: piety» [xvi].

6. Up until the beginnings of the 20th century, the Church has steadfastly and immutably maintained a rejective and condemnatory stance towards all heresies, as clearly formulated in the Synodicon of Orthodoxy which is recited on the Sunday of Orthodoxy. Heresies and heretics are anathematized, each one separately; furthermore, in order to ensure that not one of them has been left out of the anathema, there is a general anathema at the end of the text: «Let all heretics be anathematized».

Unfortunately, this uniform, steady and unswerving stance of the Church has, up until the beginnings of the 20th century, begun to be gradually abandoned, following the encyclical that was released by the Ecumenical Patriarchate in 1920 «To all the churches of Christ», which for the first time had officially characterized heresies as ‘churches’ that are not alienated from the Church, but are familiar and related to Her. It recommended that «the love between the Churches should above all be rekindled and reinforced, no longer thinking of each other as foreign and alien, but rather as related and familiar in Christ, and co-inheritors and co-incorporated in the promise of God in Christ» (see I.Karmiris’, “The Dogmatic and Symbolic Monuments of the Orthodox Catholic Church”, vol. 2, page 958).

The path is now open for the adoption, the shaping and the development within the sphere of the Orthodox Church, of the initially Protestant invention – and now with Papal acceptance – heresy of Ecumenism; this pan-heresy, which adopts and legalizes all heresies as ‘churches’ and insults the dogma of the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. Now developed, taught and imposed by Patriarchs and bishops is the new dogma regarding the Church, a new ecclesiology. According to this, no Church is entitled to demand for itself exclusively the character of a catholic and true Church. Instead, each one of them is a piece, a part, and not the entire Church; they all together comprise the Church.

All the boundaries that the Fathers had set have been torn down; there is no longer a dividing line between heresy and Church, between truth and fallacy. Even heresies are now ‘churches’; in fact, many of them -like the Papist one- are now regarded as ’sister churches’ to which God has entrusted, jointly with us, the care for mankind’s salvation [xvii].

The Grace of the Holy Spirit now also exists within heresies, and therefore their baptisms – like all their other ’sacraments’ – are considered valid. All who have been baptized, and in whichever heresy they may belong, are now considered members of Christ’s Body, the Church. The condemnations and the anathemas of the Synods are no longer valid and should be stricken from liturgical books. We are now lodged in the “World Council of Churches” and have essentially betrayed – even just with our accession to participate – our ecclesiastic self-awareness. We have removed the dogma regarding the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church – the dogma of «one Lord, one Faith, one Baptism» [xviii].

7. This inter-Christian syncretism has now expanded into an inter-religion syncretism, which equates all other religions to the unique, God-revealed, through Christ reverence for God, the knowledge of God and the Christ-like way of life. Consequently, it is not only the dogma of the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church in relation to heresies that is being attacked, but also the fundamental dogma worldwide of the one and only Revelation and salvation of mankind through Jesus Christ in relation to the religions of the world. It is the worst imaginable fallacy, the biggest heresy of all ages.

8. We believe and confess that only in Christ is there a possibility for salvation. The religions of the world and the heresies all lead to perdition. The Orthodox Church is not merely the true Church; She is the only Church. She alone has remained faithful to the Gospel, the Synods and the Fathers, and consequently She alone represents the true catholic Church of Christ. According to the blessed Elder Justin Popovitch, Ecumenism is a common name for the pseudo-churches of Western Europe; their common name is actually “pan-heresy” [xix].

This pan-heresy has been accepted by many Orthodox patriarchs, archbishops, bishops, clergymen, monks and laity. They teach it, «barefacedly»; they apply it and impose it in practice, communing with heretics in every possible manner – with common prayers, with exchanges of visits, with pastoral collaborations – thus essentially placing themselves outside the Church. Our stance, per the Conciliar canonical decisions and per the example of the Saints, is obvious. Each one must now undertake his own responsibilities.

9. There are of course collective responsibilities also, and chiefly in the ecumenistic conscience of our Hierarchs and Theologians, towards the Orthodox corpus and their individual flocks. To them, we declare with a fear of God and with love that this stance of theirs and their openings towards all Ecumenistic activities are condemnable from every aspect, because:

a) they are doubting in practice our Orthodox-Patristic tradition and Faith;

b) they are sowing doubt in the hearts of their flock and are unsettling many, thus leading things to division and schism, and

c) they are misleading a portion of the flock towards a fallacy, and through it, to spiritual disaster.

We are therefore declaring that, for the aforementioned reasons, those who are moving within this Ecumenist irresponsibility, whichever rank they may be holding within the Ecclesiastic Organization, are opposed to the tradition of our Saints and consequently opposed to them.

This is the reason that their stance must be condemned and rejected, by the entirety of the Hierarchs and the faithful People.

NOTICE:

Whosoever of the clergy, monks, nuns and the laity desires to participate in this small deposition of Orthodox confession may declare it, by writing:

“I agree with the Confession of Faith against Ecumenism, and subscribe to it”

They may send this declaration indicating their name and their ecclesiastic, monastic or professional status, to the following address:

Periodical “THEODROMIA”, P.O.Box 1602, Thessaloniki 541 24, Greece – Fax +30 2310 276590 – email address: palimpce@otenet.gr

The above Confession of Faith has been signed by the following, as a first indication.
It has been signed and will be signed by many more:

Last update: 6/30/09

Metropolitan Panteleimon of Antinoes
Metropolitan Seraphim of Kythira and Antikythira
Metropolitan Kosmas of Etolia and Akarnania
Metropolitan Seraphim of Piraeus
Metropolitan Jeremiah of Gortyno and Megalopolis, Professor, School of Theology, University of Athens
Metropolitan Artemios of Raskas and Prizrenis, Kossovo and Metohia.

Archim. Christodoulos, Abbot of the Holy Monastery of Koutloumousiou, Holy Mountain
Archim. Joseph, Abbot of the Holy Monastery of Xeropotamou, Holy Mountain
Archim. Philotheos, Abbot of the Holy Monastery of Karakalou, Holy Mountain
Archim. Agathon, Abbot of the Holy Monastery of Constamonitou, Holy Mountain.

Protopr. George Metallinos, Peer Professor, School of Theology, University of Athens
Protopr. Theodoros Zisis, Peer Professor, School of Theology, University of Thessaloniki
Archim. Markos Manolis, Spiritual Head of “Pan-Hellenic Orthodox Union”
Archim. Athanasios, Abbot of the Holy Monastery of Stavrovouniou, Cyprus.
Archim. Timotheos Sakkas, Abbot of the Holy Monastery Paraklhtou, Oropos
Archim. Kyrill Kehagioglou, Abbot of the Holy Monastery of Pantokratoros Melissohoriou Langada
Archim. Sarantis Sarantos, Priest of the Dormition of the Theotokos,Amarousio, Attica.
Archim. Maximos Karavas, Abbot of the Holy Monastery of Saint Paraskevi, Milohoriou, Ptolemaidas
Archim. Gregory Hadjinikolaou, Abbot of the Holy Monastery of the Holy Trinity, Ano Gatzeas Volou.
Archim. Athanasios Anastasiou, Abbot of the Hily Monastery of Great Meteorou.
Archim.Theoklitos Bolkas, Abbot of Holy Isihastirio of Saint Arsenio the Kapadocian, Halkidiki
Archim. Chrysostomos, Abbot of the Holy Community of Saint Nikodemos, Pentalofos, Goumenitcha.
Archim. Theodore Diamantis, Abbot of the Holy Monastery of the Theotokos, Molyskepastou, Konitsa.
Archim. Palamas Kyrillidis, Abbot of the Holy Monastery of the Nativity of the Theotokos, Kallipetra, Veria.
Archim. Eudokimos, Spiritual Father of the Holy Lavra of Savva the Sanctified, Jerusalem.
Archim. Chrysostomos, Abbot of the Holy Monastery of Saint Gerasimos the Jordanian, Jerusalem.
Archim. Laurentios Gratsias, Holy Metropolis of Florina, Prespon and Eordeas.
Archim. Meletios Vadrahanis, Holy Metropolis of Florina, Prespon and Eordeas.
Archim. Paul Demetracopoulos, Holy Monastery of the Transfiguration of the Lord, Moutsialis, Veria.
Archim. Ignatios Kalaitzopoulos, Holy Monastery of Saint Paraskevi, Melohoriou, Ptolemaidas.
Archim. Symeon Georgiadis, Holy Monastery of the Holy Trinity, Ano Gatzeas, Volos
Archim. Augustine Siarras, Holy Monastery of the Holy Trinity, Ano Gatzeas, Volos
Archim. Ambrosios Gionis, Holy Monastery of the Holy Trinity, Ano Gatzeas, Volos
Archim. Benedict, Abbot of the Holy Monastery of the Holy Archangels, Prizreni, with following.
Archim. Gerasimos, Abbot of the Holy Monastery of Saint George, Jourgevi Stoupovi, with following.
Archim. Nicholaos, Abbot of the Holy Monastery of the Holy Archangels, Mavropotami, with following.
Archim. Romylos, Abbot of the Holy Monastery of the Entry of the Theotokos, Doumboki Potok, with following.
Archim. Symeon, Abbot of the Holy Monastery of Saint Stephen, Baniska, with following.
Archim. Stephanos, Abbot of the Holy Monastery of the Saints Anargyron Zotsitse, with following.
Archim. Ioannikios Kotsonis, Abbot of the Holy Monastery of the Transfiguration of the Lord, Sohos, Thessaloniki
Archim. Paul Danas, Hieropreacher of the Holy Monastery of Etolias and Akarnanias.
Archim. Constantine Paleologopoulos, retired priest of the Holy Monastery of Kalavriton and Egalias Egio.
Archim. Paisios Papadopoulos, Abbot of the Holy Monastery of Saint Gregory Palamas, Filota, Metropolis of Florina.
Archim. Epiphanios Hadjigiagou, Head Metropolitan of the Church of Florina, Florina.
Archim. Athanasios Siamakis, Hieropreacher of the Holy Monastery of Florina
Archim. Anargyros Afthonidis, Military Priest, Florina
Archim. Augustine Andritsopoulos, Abbot of the Holy Monastery of Myrtias of the Holy Monastery of Etolia and Akarnania.
Archim. Theodosis Kyprianou, Holy Monastery of Saint Filotheou, Skete Saint George, Karyes, Holy Mountain.
Archim. Ignatios Kalaitzopoulos, Holy Monastery of Saint Paraskevi, Milohoriou, Ptolemaidas.
Archim. Ierotheos Skiadas, Abbot of the Holy Monastery of the Dormition of the Theotokos, Vlohou, Agriniou.
Archim. Ioasaph Makris, Holy Monastery of Meteora.
Archim.Kosmas Paleogiannis, Cell of Saint John the Theologian of the Holy Monastery of Dohiariou, Holy Mountain.
Archim. Sevastianos Amantidis, Abbot of the Holy Monastery of Saint Paraskevis Vasiliados, Kastoria.
Archim.Christos Kyriazopoulos, past Educational Adviser, Thessaloniki
Archim. Nektarios Ziombolas, Military Priest
Archim. Joseph Aivazoglou, Holy Church of the Theotokos Ahiropiitou (not made by hand) Thessaloniki.
Elder Gregory, HieromonkHoly IsyhastirionDanieleon, Katounakia, Holy Mountain.
Elder Efstratios, Hiermonk, Holy Monastery of Great Lavvra, Holy Mountain.
Elder Fillipos, Hieromonk, Kalyvi of Great Athanasiou, Mikra Agia Anna, Holy Mountain.
Hieromonk Athanasios, Holy Isyhastirion Danieleon, Katounakia, Holy Mountain.
Hieromonk Nikodemos, Holy Isyhastirion Danieleon, Katounakia, Holy Mountain.
Hieromonk Nephon, Holy Isyhastirion Danieleon, Katounakia, Holy Mountain.
Hieromonk Chrysostom Kartsonas, Kalyvi of Saint George, Holy Skete of Saint Anna, Holy Mountain.
Hieromonk Onoufrios, Kalyvi of the Holy Forerunner, Holy Skete of Saint Anna, Holy Mountain.
Hieromonk Chrysanthos, Kalyvi of the Holy Forerunner, Holy Skete of Saint Anna , Holy Mountain.
Hieromonk Azarias, Kalyvi of the Holy Forerunner, Holy Skete of Saint Anna, Holy Mountain.
Hieromonk Gabriel, Holy Cell of the Theotokos Gorgoepikoou, Holy Monastery of Pantokratoros, Holy Mountain.
Hieromonk Panteleimon, Holy Cell of Saint Panteleimon, Holy Monastery of Saint Pantokratoros, Holy Mountain.
Hieromonk Basil, Abbot of the Holy Monastery of Saints Anargyron, Vratsevo, with following.
Hieromonk Efthimios, Abbot of the Holy Monastery of the Holy Forerunner, Sotsanitsa, with following.
Hieromonk Theoktistos, Abbot of the Holy Monastery of the Holy Trinity, Sopotsani, with following.
Hieromonk Tychon, Holy Isyhastirion of Pantokratoros, Melissohorion
Hieromonk Chariton, Hily Cell of Ascension, Karyes, Holy Mountain.
Hieromonk Nestor.
Hieromonk Augustine, Holy Monastery of All Saints and Saint Savva the Sanctified, Jerusalem.
Hieromonk Modestos Diasakis, Holy Monastery of Saint Paraskevi, Kastoria.
Hieromonk Raphael Kyriakou, Holy Monastery of Saint Raphael-Marina, Larnaka, Cyprus.
Hieromonk Photios Georgiou, Holy Monastery of Kastorias.

Protopr. Lambros Photopoulos, Officiating priest, Holy Church of Saint Kosma Etolos, Amarousio, Attica.
Protopr. John Photopoulos, Officiating priest, Holy Church of Saint Paraskevi, Attica.
Protopr. Athanasios Minas, Loutraki Korinthias.
Protopr. Eleftherios Palamas, Saints Christophori (God-bearers) Ptolemaid.
Protopr. Constantine Mygdalis, In Charge of the Holy Church of Saint Constantine, Volos.
Protopr. Photios Vezynias, Teacher, Holy Metropolis of Langada.
Protopr. Anthony Bousdekis, Abbot of the Holy Monastery of Saint Nicholas of Nicea.
Protopr. Demetrios Vasiliadis, Holy Metropolis of Maronia and Komotini
Protopr. Vasilios E. Voloudakis, Officiating priest, Holy Church of Saint Nicholas Pefkakion, Athens.
Protopr. Vasilios Gogidis, Officiating priest, Holy Metropolitan Church of Saint Nicholas, Megapoleos.
Protopr. Nicholas Zaharopoulos, Officiating priest of the Holy Church of Saint Fanourios, Drapetsonas.
Protopr. Haralambos Lalaitis, Officiating priest, Holy Church of the Theotokos Myrtidiotissis, Piraeus.
Protopr. Chariton Pappas, Officiating priest, Holy Church of Saint Demetrios, Piraeus.
Protopr. Panagiotis Sahtouris, Officiating priest, Holy Church of Saint Nilus, Pireaus.
Protopr. Constantinos Tzafestas, Officiating priest, Holy Metropolitan Church of Kerkyra, Theologian, retired Professor M.E., Kerkyra.
Protopr. Christos Christodoulos, Officiating priest, Holy Church of Saint Constantine and Helen, Piraeus.
Protopr. Radoslav Jankovic, Secretary of the Holy Metropolis of Raskas and Prizrenis and Kossovo and Metohia.
Protopr. Dimitrios Vasiliadis, Komotini.
Protopr. Anastasios Semertzidis, Hierarchal Commissioner of the Kastoria eparchy.
Protopr. George Kougioumtzoglou, Thessaloniki.
Protopr. Constantinos Andreopoulos, Holy Monastery Florinis.
Protopr. Vasilios Christidis, Holy Monastery Attikis.
Protopr. Haralambos Nalpadidis, Holy Monastery Florinis.
Protopr. Photios Bithas, Holy Monastery of Saint Spyridon, Great Yarmouth, England.
Priest Dionysios tatsis, Educator, Konitsa.
Priest Demetrios Sarris, Officiating priest, Holy Church of Pammegiston Taksiarhon, Sesklou, Esonias.
Priest Efthimios Antoniadis, Holy Metropolis of Larisa.
Priest Anastasios Gotsopoulos, Officiating priest of the Holy Church of Saint Nicholas, Patra.
Priest George Papageorgiou, Holy Metropolis Demetriados.
Priest Peter Hirs, Petrokerasa, Halkidiki.
Priest Theophanis Manouras, Officiating priest, Holy Church of Saint Athanasiou Valestinou, Magnesias.
Priest Pashalis Ginoudis, Holy Metropolis of Larisa.
Priest George Diamantopoulos, Lavrio, Holy Metropolis Mesogeas.
Priest Vasilios Kokolakis, Officiating priest, Holy Church of the Holy Cross, Holargos.
Priest Peter Pantazis, Officiating priest, Holy Church of the Transfiguration, Halandriou.
Priest Anthony Valvis, Officiating priest, Holy Church of Saint Nilus, Piraeus.
Priest John Vernikos, Holy Church of the Annunciation of the Theotokos, Montgomery, Alabama.
Priest Nicholas Gavalles, Holy Church of the Holy Apostles, Psalidiou, Amarousio.
Priest Iraklis Drivas, Officiating Priest, Holy Church of the Theotokos Myrtidiotissa, Piraeus.
Priest Demetrios Kalabounias, Officiating priest, Holy Church of Saint Nilus, Piraeus.
Priest Demetrios Lambrou, clergy, Holy Monastery Prevezis, Aneza-Artas.
Priest Basilios Mouzelis, Officiating priest, Chapel of Saints Anargyron, Hospital of Halkidos.
Priest Panagiotis Balis, Officiating priest, Holy Church of the Entry of the Theotokos, Imerovigliou, Thera.
Priest Christopher Chronis, Holy Monastery Etolias and Akarnanias.
Priest Sotirios Manolopoulos, Officiating priest, Holy Church of Saint Basil Vrahneika, Holy Monastery of Patra.
Priest George Vasilakis, Lyon, France.
Priest Theoharis Megas, Hieroteacher, Director of Plystylou, Kavalas.
Priest Daniel de Oliveira Pinheiro, Ukrainian Orthodox Church in Brazil.
Priest Demetrios Sykopoulos, Holy Monastery Kastorias.
Priest Triantafyllos Xeros, Thessaloniki.
Presvytera Maria Tsiplakaki, Vathilakkos, Kozani.
Stewart Demetrios Papagiannis, Officiating priest, Holy Church of Saint Fanourios, Drapetsonas.
Stewart John Psarras, Officiating priest, Holy Church of Saint George Mesoropis, Holy Monastery Eleftheroupoleos.
Stewart John Kyprianou, Officiating priest, Holy Church of Saint Nicholas, Egomi-Lefkosia, Cyprus.
Priest Miltiadis Karagiannis, Kefalohori Imathias.

Hierodeacon Theologos Kostopoulos, Holy Monastery of the Holy Trinity, Ano Gazeas Volou.
Hierodeacon Antonios, Holy Isyhastirion Pantokratoros, Melissohoriou.
Hierodeacon George Theodoridis, Holy Metropolis of Lerou, Kalymnou and Astypaleas.
Hierodeacon Iraklidios Kleanthous, Holy Metropolis Tamasou, Cyprus.

Elder Theoliptos Monk, Hut of the Holy Forerunner, Holy Scete of Saint Anna, Holy Mountain.
Elder Gabriel Monk, Cell of Saint Christodoulou, Karyes, Holy Mountain.
Elder Ilarion Monk, near Arsana Constamonitou, Holy Mountain.
Elder Daniel Monk, Holy Isyhastirion Danieleon, Katanoukia, Holy Mountain.
Elder Akakios Monk, Holy Isyhastirion Danieleon, Katanoukia, Holy Mountain.
Elder Stefanos Monk, Holy Isyhastirion Danieleon, Katanoukia, Holy Mountain.
Elder Paul Monk, Holy Cell of the Holy Apostles, SceteXenofontos, Holy Mountain.
Elder Onoufrios Monk, Holy Cell of the Nativity of the Theotokos, Holy Monastery Pantokratoros,Holy Mountain.
Elder Nektarios Monk, Holy Cell of the Lifebearing Spring, Holy Monastery Koutloumousiou, Holy Mountain.
Elder Isaak Monk, Holy Cell of the Nativity of the Theotokos, Holy Monastery Stavronikita, Holy Mountain.
Elder Moses Monk, Holy Cell of Saint John Chrysostom, Scete of Saint Panteleimon, Holy Monastery Koutloumousiou, Holy Mountain.
Elder Heruvim Monk, New Scete, Holy Mountain.
Monk Arsenios Vliakoftis, Holy Isyhastirion of Saint Arsenios of Kappadocia, Halkidiki.
Monk George, Holy Cell of the Nativity of the Theotokos, Holy Monastery of Pantokratoros, Holy Mountain.
Monk Christopher, Holy Cell of the Apostles, Scete Xenofontos, Holy Mountain.
Monk Maximos, Holy Isyhastirion Danieleon, Katanoukia, Holy Mountain.
Monk Dositheos, Kathisma Holy Monastery of Koutloumousiou, Holy Mountain.
Monk Spyridon, Cell of Saint Nicholas, Holy Monastery of Koutloumousiou, Holy Mountain.
Monk Damaskinos Agiorite, Holy Cell of the Holy Forerunner, Holy Monastery of Karakallou.
Monk Savvas Lavriotis, Holy Monastery of Great Lavra, Holy Mountain.
Monk Theophilos Agiorite, Holy Cell Sanbri, Holy Mountain.
Monk Paisios, Holy Cell of the Holy Archangels “Savveon”, Holy Mountain.
Monk Herouvim, Holy Cell of the Holy Archangels, Saint John Koukouzeli, Holy Mountain.
Monk Nikodemos, Holy Cell of Saint Nektarios, Kapsala, Holy Mountain.
Monk Disitheos, Holy Monastery of the Transfiguration of the Lord, Sohos, Langada.
Monk Chariton, Hut of the Holy Forerunner, Holy Scete of Saint Anna, Holy Mountain.
Monk Nikodemos, Hut of the Holy Forerunner, Holy Scete of Saint Anna, Holy Mountain.
Monk Averkios, Hut of the Holy Forerunner, Holy Scete of Saint Anna, Holy Mountain.
Monk Prodromos, Hut of the Holy Forerunner, Scete of Saint Anna, Holy Mountain.
Monk Arsenios, Holy Hut of Saint Gerasimos, Scete of Saint Panteleimon, Holy Monastery Koutloumousiou, Holy Mountain.
Monk Arsenios, Holy Isyhastirion Pantokratoros, Melissohoriou.
Monk Demetrios, Holy Isyhastirion Pantokratoros, Melissohoriou.
Monk Dionysios, Holy Isyhastiorion Pantokratoros, Melissohoriou.
Monk Efstratios, Holy Isyhastirion Pantokratoros, Melissohoriou.
Monk Ignatios, Holy Isyhastirion Pantokratoros, Melissohoriou.
Monk Mardarios, Jerusalem.
Monk Michael, Holy Isyhastirion Pantokratoros, Melissohoriou.
Monk Nektarios, Holy Isyhastirion Pantokratoros, Melissohoriou.
Monk Nicodemos Bilalis, Cell of the Visitation (Ypapanti) – Kapsala, Holy Mountain.
Monk Pahomios, Holy Isyhastirion Pantokratoros, Melissohoriou.
Monk Raphael, Holy Isyhastirion Pantokratoros, Melissohoriou.
Monk Arkadios Sabbaite, Holy Lavra of Savva the Sanctified, Jerusalem.
Monk Arsenios Kotzias, Holy Monastery of Saint Paraskevi, Kastoria.
Monk George, New Scete, Holy Mountain.
Monk Efraim Sabbaite, Holy Lavra of Savva the Sanctified, Jerusalem.
Monk Zosimas Sabbaite, Holy Lavra of Savva the Sanctified, Jerusalem.
Monk Ioannikos Sabbaite, Holy Lavra of Savva the Sanctified, Jerusalem.
Monk Iosaph Sabbaite, Holy Lavra of Savva the Sanctified, Jerusalem.
Monk Kallinikos Sabbaite, Holy Lavra of Savva the Sanctified, Jerusalem.
Monk Lazaros Sabbaite, Holy Lavra of Savva the Sanctified, Jerusalem
Monk Merkourios Sabbaite, Holy Lavra of Savva the Sanctified, Jerusalem.
Monk Paisios Sabbaite, Holy Lavra of Savva the Sanctified, Jerusalem.
Monk Raphael Sabbaite, Holy Lavra of Savva the Sanctified, Jerusalem.
Monk Savvas Mousdikas, Holy Monastery of Saint Paraskevi, Kastoria.
Monk Seraphim Sabbaite, Holy Lavra of Savva the Sanctified, Jerusalem.
Monk Philotheos Tzimoropoulos, Holy Monastery of Saint Paraskevi, Kastoria.
Monk Herouvim Sabbaite, Holy Lavra of Saint Savva the Sanctified, Jerusalem.

Nun Agathi Antoniou, Abbess, Holy Monastery of Saint Stephen, Holy Meteora.
Nun Mariam, Abbess, Holy Monastery of Saint Laurentios, Pilio.
Nun Christonymphi, Holy Monastery of Saint Laurentios, Pilio.
Nun Laurentia, Holy Monastery of Saint Laurentios, Pilio.
Nun Agathinoi Antoniou, Holy Monastery of Saint Stephen, Holy Meteora.
Nun Agathodouli Hondrou, Holy Monastery of Saint Stephen, Holy Meteora.
Nun Agathokliti Athanatou, Holy Monastery of Saint Stephen, Holy Meteora.
Nun Alexia Peppa, Holy Monastery of Saint Stephen, Holy Meteora.
Nun Vessaria Laskou, Holy Monastery of Saint Stephen, Holy Meteora.
Nun Eufimia Dionysopoulou, Holy Monastery of Saint Stephen, Holy Meteora.
Nun Thekla Barka, Holy Monastery of Saint Stephen, Holy Meteora.
Nun Theodosia Bouba, Holy Monastery of Saint Stephen, Holy Meteora.
Nun Theoktisti Paila, Holy Monastery of Saint Stephen, Holy Meteora.
Nun Theologia Papadaki, Holy Monastery of Saint Stephen, Holy Meteora.
Nun Theoproti Tzitzira, Holy Monastery of Saint Stephen, Holy Meteora.
Nun Theotekni Mitsikosta, Holy Monastery of Saint Stephen, Holy Meteora.
Nun Theophania Kyriazopoulou, Holy Monastery of Saint Stephen, Holy Meteora.
Nun Justina Demetriou, Holy Monastery of Saint Stephen, Holy Meteora.
Nun Magdalen Papadam, Holy Monastery of Saint Stephen, Holy Meteora.
Nun Makrina Pappa, Holy Monastery of Saint Stephen, Holy Meteora.
Nun Mariam Kalogianni, Holy Shrine of the Transfiguration of the Lord, Holy Metropolis of Ierissou and of the Holy Mountain.
Nun Marina Famisi, Holy Monastery of Saint Stephen, Holy Meteora.
Nun Markella Gaki, Holy Monastery of Saint Stephen, Holy Meteora.
Nun Nektaria Bali, Holy Monastery of Saint Stephen, Holy Meteora.
Nun Nikodimi Siahouli, Holy Monastery of Saint Stephen, Holy Meteora.
Nun Kseni Karamihou, Holy Monastery of Saint Stephen, Holy Meteora.
Nun Prodromi Kapeti, Holy Monastery of Saint Stephen, Holy Meteora.
Nun Sarra, Abbess, Holy Monastery of Saint Nicholas, Kontsoul, with following.
Nun Silouani Phillips, Holy Monastery of Saint Stephen, Holy Meteora.
Nun Stephania Tesia, Holy Monastery of Saint Stephen, Holy Meteora.
Nun Synglitiki Rekata, Holy Monastery of Saint Stephen, Holy Meteora.
Nun Fevronia Dalla, Holy Monastery of Saint Stephen, Holy Meteora.
Nun Philothei Bali, Holy Monastery of Saint Stephen, Holy Meteora.
Nun Haralambia Mastoraki, Holy Monastery of Saint Stephen, Holy Meteora.
Nun Christoniphi Bandeka, Holy Monastery of Saint Stephen, Holy Meteora.
Nun Chrysostomi Polyzou, Holy Monastery of Saint Stephen, Holy Meteora.
Nun Melani, Thessaloniki.
Nun Christodouli, Thessaloniki.

Archimandrite Philemon Castro, Los Banos, Laguna, Philippines
Ieromonah Ioan Buliga, Manastirea Jacul Romanesc
Ieromonah Leontios, Slobozia, Romania
Hieromonk Mark, Economos
Hieromonk Nicolas (Vera) Parish Priest of the Parish of Saint Andrew and Saint Nicolas SerbianPatriarchate,
Jeromonah Naum Mirkovic, Proiguman Manastira Crna Reka Serbija
Hieromonk Nicolás (Vera), Parish Priest of the Parish of Saint Andrew and Saint Nicolás, Alicante (Spain), Serbian Patriarchate
Jeromonah Irinej Ristic, iguman manastira Bogorodia Brainska, eparhija rasko prizrenska i kosovsko-metohijska
Jeromonach Varnava Dimitrijevic, manastir Crna Reka, eparhija rasko prizrenskai kosovsko-metohijska

P. Protopresbitero Jorge (Georgios) Faraj, Sacerdote Ortodoxo del patriarcado de Antioquia en Honduras, Centro America
Protopresbyter Roman Cheb, Russia Siberia, sity Prokopyevsk, Paris Priest, Sacred Temple of Saint Nicholas
Pr. Constantin Diboș
Presbyter Sasha Petrovich, parish priest os St. Nicholas Serbian Orthodox Church, Omaha, Nebraska, USA
Priest Koniukhov Dimitry
Priest Toderita Rusu, the Ascenssion of Lord, Bucharest Romania
Fr. Photios, Spiritual Director, St. James the Just True Orthodox Center website, Russian True Orthodox Church.
Pr. Paroh Mihai Solomon, Parohia Sf. Ilie, Girona, Spania
Protodeacon Basil Alexandrovich Yakimov, Russian Orthodox Church
Diacono Ignacio Miranda, Catedral Ortodoxa Antioquena de San Pedro Sula, Honduras, Centro America
monah Hariton Vlajic, manastir Plocnik, eparhija rasko prizrenska i kosovskometohijska

Monahia Eufimia, Mănăstirea Sfinţii Arhangheli, Slobozia, România

Subdeacon Jorge Luiz Slobodaniuk, Ukrainian Orthodox church in Brazil (Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople)
Last update: 6/30/09

This list will be regularly updated with added names.
Readers can see the constantly updated list of signatures in Greek, here:
http://www.impantokratoros.gr/ABF82395.el.aspx”

[i] See treatise by Gennadius II Scholarios, Patriarch of Constantinople: “Regarding the only way to the salvation of mankind” , to George Scholarios “The complete extant works – Oevres Completes de Georges Scholarios”, Volumes I-VII, Paris 1928-1936, publ. L. Petit – X. Siderides – M. Jugie, Vol. III, 434-452.

[ii] John 8:12 «I am the light of the world – whosoever follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life». John 3:19 «The light had come to the world and men loved the darkness rather than the light».

[iii] Acts 4:14.

[iv] 1 John 4:2-3 «Every spirit that confesses Jesus had cometh in the flesh, is from God; and every spirit that does not confess Jesus Christ had cometh in the flesh, is not from God. And this is what you have heard regarding the antichrist: that he cometh and is now already in the world».

[v] See “Didaches” (Teachings) of St.Cosmas of Aetolia, of I.Menounos, “Cosmas of Aetolia teachings (and biography), Tinos publications, Athens, Didache A1, 37, page 142: «”All faiths are false, counterfeit, all of them the Devil’s. This I realized as being true, divine, heavenly, correct, perfect, both by my word and by your word: that the faith of the pious and orthodox christians is good and holy, and that we must believe and be baptized in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit».

[vi] ‘Homily prior to the exile’ 1, ΕΠΕ 33, 186.

[vii] Epistle 90, “To the most holy brothers and bishops in the West” 2, ΕΠΕ 2, 20

[viii] Galatians. 1, 9. To Gall. Homily chapt. 1, PG 61, 624.

[ix] Mansi, 13, 409-412.

[x] The moral laxity and decadence, even among the clergy, had already been noted at the beginning of the 15th century, by Saint Simeon of Thessaloniki (see ‘Dogmatic Epistle 16′ in D. Balfour, by Simeon of Thessaloniki (1416/17-1429) “Theological Works, Vlatades gleanings 34, Thessaloniki 1981, page 218: «And furthermore, that they did not regard fornication at all entailing Hell, not even among their priests, but instead, they would unscrupulously have concubines and youths for fornication and would every day officiate.» Ibid, 15, page 216: «They also do not follow an evangelical lifestyle; for, every kind of luxury and fornication to them is not a reprehensible matter, nor anything else that is forbidden for Christians». ) The moral decadence that is observed of late even among the Orthodox clergy is the result of Ecumenism’s liberalism and secularism..

[xi] Dialogue 23, PG 155, 120-121. Epistle regarding blessedness 5, in D. Balfour, Simeon Archbishop of Thessaloniki (1416/17-1429), “Theological Works, Vlatades gleanings 34, Thessaloniki 1981, page 226.

[xii] Canonical Epistle Ά, To Amphilochios of Iconion, Canon a.

[xiii] In the text of the 9th General Convention of the World Council of Churches in Porto Alegre, Brazil in 2006, which was accepted by the representatives of the Orthodox churches and was titled “Called to be the One Chuch”, in paragraph 8 it states: “All those baptized in Christ are united in His name.” In paragraph 9: “That we all belong in common to Christ through baptism in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, gives the churches the possibility and it invites them to walk together, even when they disagree. We assure that there is one baptism, exactly as there is one body and one Spirit, one hope in our calling, one Lord, one Faith, one God and Father to all of us (see Ephes.4:4-6)”. The Metropolitan of Pergamos John (Zizioulas) in his work “Orthodox Ecclesiology and the Ecumenical Movement”, Sourozh Diocesan Magazine (England, August 1985, vol.21, page 23), had paved the way for this position, by stating: “Within baptism, even if there is a break, a division, a schism, you can still speak of the Church… The Orthodox, in my understanding at least, participate in the ecumenical movement as a movement of baptized Christians, who are in a state of division because they cannot express the same faith together. In the past this has happened because of a lack of love which is now, thank God, disappearing.”

[xiv] Apologetics on the flight to Pontus 82, ΕΠΕ 1, 176.

[xv] To Romans, Homily 22, 2, PG 60, 611. To Philippians, Homily 2,1, PG 62, 119.

[xvi] Confession of faith displayed in Florence, in Documents relatifs au Concile de Florence, II, Oeuvres anticonciliaires de Marc d’Ephèse, par L. Petit, Patrologia Orientalis 17, 442.

[xvii] See joint statement by Pope John-Paul II and Patriarch Bartholomew during the latter’s visit to Rome on the 29th of June, 1995. The same had been proclaimed at an earlier date by the Combined Theological Committee for the Dialogue between Orthodox and Papists, in Balamand of Lebanon in 1993.

[xviii] Ephesians 4: 5.

[xix] Archmandr. Justin Popovitch, Orthodox Church and Ecumenism, Thessaloniki 1974, page 224…

Translation: A. N.

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The entire chorus of Fathers, both in Synods and individually, regard Papism as a heresy because apart from the Filioque, it produced a host of other fallacies, such as the primacy and the infallibility of the Pope, the unleavened bread (host), the fires of Purgatory, the immaculate conception of the Theotokos, created Grace, the purchasing of absolution (indulgences)… it has altered nearly all of the teaching and the practice pertaining to Baptism, Chrismation, the Divine Eucharist and the other Sacraments, and has converted the Church to a secular State.

Contemporary Papism has deviated even further than medieval Papism from the teaching of the Church, to the extent that it no longer comprises a continuance of the ancient Church of the West. It has introduced a swarm of new exaggerations in its “Mariology”, such as the teaching that the Theotokos is a parallel redeemer (corredemptrix) of the human race.

It is this kind of cartoon polemics that makes Greek Orthodox traditionalists so hard to take seriously when it comes to theology.

Even the Synod in Resistance is light years ahead of this kind of stuff when it comes to scholarliness.


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It has reinforced the “Charismatic Movement” of Pentecostal (supposedly Spirit-centered) groups. It has adopted further innovations to Divine Worship, such as dances and musical instruments. It has shortened and essentially ruined the Divine Liturgy.

I find myself agreeing in general with this (although my view of musical instruments would be much more lenient!) but the impact of this statement is destroyed by the fallacious character of this declaration's other statements.

I was actually asked once why I didn't post this on Rorate, because it is a "criticism of the post-Conciliar Church." My response was that this statement is too egregious a distortion of Catholicism to even take seriously.


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In the area of Ecumenism it has set down the bases for the Pan-religion with its 2nd Vatican Council, by recognizing “spiritual life” in the people of other religions.

Rubbish. Recognizing that non-Christians have a spiritual life is the only way that you could justify preaching the Gospel to them. Would people be worth evangelizing if they have absolutely no spiritual life? The Church knows how to recognize the "preparatio evangelica" that can be found in non-Christian systems without mistaking these for the Gospel itself.


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Dogmatic minimalism has led it to a minimizing of moral prerequisites, on account of the bond between dogma and morality, the result of which was the moral failures of leading clergymen and an increase in moral deviations such as homosexuality and pedophilia among clergymen [x].

True enough. How sad that these necessary criticisms have to be mixed with so much nonsense.

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By continuing to support “Unia” – that caricature of Orthodoxy with which it victimizes and proselytizes faithful – Papism is sabotaging the Dialogue and is contradicting its supposedly sincere intentions for union.

If anything, Rome often acts like it is embarrased by the very existence of Eastern Catholics.

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I tend to concur that some of the theological criticisms here are really quite shallow. As a former Catholic I saw some rather glaring errors on my first casual glance. If one is going to criticize another religious confession, I think one has an ethical obligation to at least get their side of the story before attacking. It is really quite unfortunate that there are as many errors in details, which as you correctly point out detract from the overall credibility of a document that purports to address a very serious and under-discussed subject.

That said I would be careful not to throw the baby out with the bathwater. This admittedly flawed document, nonetheless raises very real points of concern (I am thinking more about the Orthodox Church than the Roman). And if nothing else it helps to remind people that the modern Ecumenical practice is not consistent with the historic discipline of The Church expressed repeatedly in it's canons, and the consensus patri.

I would really prefer it if we curtailed the dialogue for dialogue's sake and instead adopted the style of Ecumenism demonstrated by Metropolitan Jonah in his recent address to the newly formed Anglican Church in North America.

Its late here and I need some sleep. I will ponder this and write more on it after I have time to reflect.

Yours in ICXC
John

P.S. It's good to hear from you again Carlos. I hope you and yours are well.

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I agree fully!!! In this "confession" the royal path of the Fathers is thrown out. It makes some good points on modernism, which is affecting some aspects of the Church. Yet I would expect this tone from the Mathewites.

How many of them actually talked to one of us "Papists" or "Unia" followers? If this is suppose to show me the error that I am in and sever Communion with Rome and return- it has done the opposite. (Not saying there is not people within our communion who feel this way about non-Catholics or even Eastern Catholics)

Sadly our dialogue has a long way to go still. Yet God will win out and we will be one-Since he calls us to be one.

I love my Orthodox Brothers and Sisters and I yearn for the day when we all can share the one Eucharist together.

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asianpilgrim,
I tend to concur that some of the theological criticisms here are really quite shallow. As a former Catholic I saw some rather glaring errors on my first casual glance. If one is going to criticize another religious confession, I think one has an ethical obligation to at least get their side of the story before attacking. It is really quite unfortunate that there are as many errors in details, which as you correctly point out detract from the overall credibility of a document that purports to address a very serious and under-discussed subject.

That said I would be careful not to throw the baby out with the bathwater. This admittedly flawed document, nonetheless raises very real points of concern (I am thinking more about the Orthodox Church than the Roman). And if nothing else it helps to remind people that the modern Ecumenical practice is not consistent with the historic discipline of The Church expressed repeatedly in it's canons, and the consensus patri.

I would really prefer it if we curtailed the dialogue for dialogue's sake and instead adopted the style of Ecumenism demonstrated by Metropolitan Jonah in his recent address to the newly formed Anglican Church in North America.

Its late here and I need some sleep. I will ponder this and write more on it after I have time to reflect.

Yours in ICXC
John

P.S. It's good to hear from you again Carlos. I hope you and yours are well.

I agree with everything you've said.

I'm fine. Been busy over there at Rorate.

Rains here in Manila have finally stopped!

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Is this one better for all of you? I would like you to tell me just what you think is wrong with this.


A Proclamation on Ecclesiology
Friday, 27 October 2006 10:39


1.) We believe and confess that the Orthodox Church is neither of man nor a product of the human mind, but is by the revelation of Jesus Christ. This revelation was preached by the Divine Apostles, confirmed by the Holy Ecumenical Councils, passed down by the wisest and greatest teachers in the world, and sealed by the blood of the martyrs.

2.) The purpose of the Church of the G.O.C. of America is the purification, enlightenment, and divinization in Christ of the entire population of the American continent. To this end she preserves unsullied the Apostolic faith and Tradition as the sole means of and sole route to perfection. This faith was revealed and entrusted to the Church by God the Word Himself; therefore, the Church neither adds nor subtracts anything from what she has received from Christ through the Prophets, Apostles, and Holy Fathers. For this reason she remains steadfast in the decisions of the Ecumenical and Pan-Orthodox councils. We accept and revere all the Holy and Ecumenical Councils, as well as the decisions of the Quintisext Council of 692, the First-Second Council of 879 held in Constantinople under St. Photius the Great, and the Tome of the Synod of Blachernae held in 1351 under St. Gregory Palamas and the holy Patriarch Kallistos I, as having ecumenical and catholic force. We also love and obey the decisions of the Holy Pan-Orthodox Councils of 1583, 1587, and 1593, which condemned the so-called "Frankish" or "New" Calendar (instituted by Pope Gregory XIII in 1582) as a departure from the catholicity of the Church. In respect to this we accept and recognize as an ecumenical and catholic monument of the Orthodox Faith the Patriarchal Tome of 1756 regarding the Baptism of heterodox, as well as the Synodal Singilion of 1848 pronounced by the Patriarchs of the East. The mission the Church of the G.O.C. of America is identical to the mission of Christ's whole Church: i.e., by means of divine grace (in which man can participate or acquire through the Mysteries of the Church), a correct confession of the Orthodox faith, and the struggle to keep God's commandments, she seeks to save all her members and bring them to a state of spiritual perfection, which is sanctification and deifying union with God Himself.

3.) The Orthodox Church is the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church. As such, she cannot recognize any heterodox church or religious community outside her as a parallel expression the Catholic faith or continuation of the Church of Christ and the Apostles. The Orthodox Church confesses one Baptism and one Eucharist, just as Christ is one hypostasis, one person. The Orthodox Church pursues her sanctifying mission of salvation through Orthodox faith, acts, and divine vision, but particularly though the highest communion between God and man in the Mystery of the Divine Eucharist. There can be no division or sundering of the catholicity of the Church such as the heresy of Ecumenism preaches, falsifying and adulterating the true faith and tradition. There can only be a falling away from the catholicity, for that which is whole is not subject to division. For this reason, Ecumenism is the greatest temptation today for the Orthodox, who are called to emulate Christ in the desert and reproach Satan, resisting the temptations of the "favors," the "glory" and the "kingdoms of the world" which it promises in exchange for the soul.

4.) Thus, the Church of G.O.C. of America continues the Holy Tradition of the truth of the Orthodox Catholic Church, introducing no innovation, and revering the holy struggle of our predecessors from 1924 to the present. She prays that the portion of Christian brothers who follow the New Calendar innovation will return to the Sacred Tradition of the Holy Ecumenical Councils, so that full communion will be restored among all Orthodox Christians within the bounds of the sacred canons and the common Orthodox confession. The Calendar change was instituted unilaterally in 1924, at first in the Greek Church and the Ecumenical Patriarchate, and then slowly spread like a disease to other local Churches (but never Catholically), thus opposing the catholicity of the Church both in its method of implementation and in its goal. The unilateral introduction of the New Calendar was an uncanonical and uncatholic act of local hierarchs which violated the external manifestation of the catholicity and ecumenicity of the world-wide Orthodox Church. The Church's unity has always been expressed through the use of a single calendar, which was established at the First Ecumenical Council for that very purpose. Its pervasiveness in the liturgical life and the Eucharistic experience of the Church has steadily increased from that time forward, both through Synodal acts and through unwritten tradition. The changing of the calendar was an attempt to harmonize the external signs of Church's unity with the heterodox churches of Western Europe, at the expense of unity within the Orthodox Church herself. The calendar change was the result of a secularized mindset which suffered from an inferiority complex toward the West; and it was only forced through during a time of national disaster. The Church calendar is the external manifestation of the unity of the Orthodox Churches, and to dispose of it in favor of unity with heretical churches is to violate the catholicity of the Church.

5.) The Church of G.O.C. of America has no relations or communion with the local Churches which have accepted the calendar innovation (i.e., adopted the Gregorian calendar of the Vatican), nor with the Churches which have any communion with the pan-heresy of Ecumenism and which belong to the World Council of Churches. She will never have communion with these Churches as long as they remain in their cacodox state. The contemporary movement of Ecumenism is the result of thinking that the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church of Christ has lost her catholicity due to theological and political quarrels. It seeks to reconstitute the Church's lost catholicity by uniting the split parts and restoring Eucharistic communion with heterodox groups without first reaching a common theological stance. Participation in the World Council of Churches (an organization which embodies the feeling of lost catholicity and seeks to restore it) on the part of local Orthodox Churches is a radical denial that the Orthodox Church is the totality of the Church of Christ. It presupposes the denial of the existence of authentic ecclesiastical catholicity today and it recognizes the need to reconstitute a "truly authentic" catholicity.

6.) When our Lord Jesus Christ asked his apostles and disciples, "Who do men say that I am?" the Apostle Peter confessed, "Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God." And straightway Christ answered, saying, "Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood have not revealed it to thee, but My Father which is in heaven. And I say unto thee that thou art Peter, and upon this rock will I build My Church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail over it" (Matt. 16, 15-19). The rock upon which Christ built His Church is precisely that confession of the truth which the heavenly Father revealed in the Person of Jesus Christ, His Son and Word. This confession binds the Church together and makes her one body, receptive of divine illumination, able and sufficient to assemble at the Eucharistic table.

7.) The Greek Orthodox Church of the Patristic Calendar, whose jurisdiction extends throughout the United States of America and beyond, recognizes that the greatest danger to the Church and her members is secularization; which, in the mind of the Church, is a heresy threatening her very foundations. Especially today it is capable of destroying our unity and particularly our Orthodox lifestyle. Secularization is any action which pushes aside the workings of the Holy Spirit, seeking to promote lust for worldly power in the Church; whether in pastoral work, missionary work, or governmental duties of all her faithful members, both clergy and laity. Secularization is the greatest danger for the human dimension of the Church, since it slowly eats away at the Orthodox lifestyle and mindset.

8.) The Orthodox Church of the G.O.C. of America imparts the mysteries to her faithful members in accordance with age-old Orthodox tradition, inasmuch as she bears responsibility for their souls. The Orthodox Church always recognizes as valid, canonical, and efficacious only those mysteries performed within her self. Those outside the Orthodox Church (heterodox and non-Christians) who wish to become members of the Church, are accepted after rejecting every heresy (especially the one to which they belonged) and receiving baptism and chrismation, unless the Holy Canons permit some economy.

9.) In addition to her pastoral work, the Church of the G.O.C. of America preaches the Holy Gospel of Christ and seeks to evangelize or re-evangelize into the traditional Orthodox faith every human being, regardless of race, color, or religion. The Church has therefore a missionary nature, and wishes to pass on the light of Orthodoxy to those who are outside her and bring everyone into her bosom, without engaging in proselytism. She preaches to all the Word of the Gospel and calls upon all who desire salvation to join her, for the Church ever since Apostolic times been multicultural and multiracial. Our Church continues in this tradition, the tradition of Romanity, for which there is "neither Jew, nor Greek, slave, nor free" (Gal. 3:28).

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Chad,
Well as to what is wrong with it we can start with the source. Anytime a church needs to insert the word "Genuine" or "True" in front of the word "Orthodox" that is like a giant red flag or a flashing neon sign that says CAUTION! Being somewhat conservative and traditionalist by inclination I actually am in sympathy with some of the complaints of the Old Calendarists. The problem however is that in addition to being schismatics, most of them are just plain weird. Seriously. Waaayyy too many of them subscribe to some or all of the bizarre conspiracy theories about the Illuminati or the Jews or the Free Masons or fill in your favorite bogyman.

As to the substance of their declaration there is some I tend to agree with. But there are a lot of issues.

Firstly they place equal emphasis on all of the synods they list. But this is not wise as some of them never received universal acceptance. As one example the often cited synodical decree of 1756 never really gained much acceptance outside of the Hellenic parts of the Church. It stands in contrast with the historic discipline of the Russian and Slavic churches as also that even of the Greek Churches prior to that decree which is discussed at length in the excellent work [fatheralexander.org] by Archimandrite Ambrosius (Pagodin).

Even prior to the unfortunate decision to adopt the Latin Calendar in the preceding century (ugg I feel so old), most Orthodox theologians and scholars had ceased to refer to it as heretical, rather seeing it more correctly as extra-canonical. In like manner the method by which the Latin Calendar was foisted upon much of the Orthodox world was obviously and grossly uncanonical. But calendars are a means for keeping time. They are not of themselves heretical any more than my watch was heretical (I no longer wear one).

They also label "Ecumenism" as a heresy. I must have missed that one in the decrees of the OEcumenical Councils. While I agree that there is a danger in a wrong approach to Ecumenism, one can not bring the saving message of Christ to people you are not talking to. Ecumenism is not heretical. Now the modern praxis of Ecumenism would seem in far too many cases to be aimed at establishing unity at the expense of truth. And that is a no no. But again Ecumenism when correctly understood and practiced is not only not heretical it is indeed a scriptural mandate.

That said if you can get beyond the obvious attempts at justifying their schism from the Church some of what is in this "decree" looks pretty sound to me, but that still brings us back to square one. I am sorry to be blunt here. And this applies equally to Roman Catholics. If you say you are Orthodox but you are not in communion with with anyone but yourself and maybe a handful of splinter groups, sorry you are deluding yourself. You are in schism and need to repent. Just as you can not claim to be Roman Catholic while not being in full and unimpaired communion with the Roman See.

The world of radical traditionalists is a spiritual black hole. Every imaginable theory is contrived to explain why "they" in fact are the true church and everyone else in the world is in heresy or schism. That is arrogance of the first order, which is usually compounded when they proceed to compare themselves to the saints of the early church who stood against heresy. But let us be honest here. How many people have met schismatics who acknowledged their schism?

Under the mercy,
John

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Originally Posted by chadrook
Is this one better for all of you? I would like you to tell me just what you think is wrong with this.
Chad,
See the below article.

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Anti-Patristic: The Stance of the Zealot Old Calendarists
by Monk Basil of the Holy Monastery of Saint Gregory (Grigoriou), Mount Athos

In the magazine "Holy Kollyvades"1 an article by Fr. Nicholas Demaras was published, in which the Sacred Monastery of Saint Gregory is criticized for its stance regarding Ecumenism and Zealotism.

The occasion of this article was my departure from the Zealot Fathers of the Holy Mountain and my taking up residence in the aforesaid Sacred Monastery. My reason for leaving is the entirely mistaken ecclesiastical line which the Zealots and remaining G.O.C. [Genuine Orthodox Christians] Old Calendarists have adopted. Among my many arguments for this decision was the stance of Saint Sophronius regarding the heretical Monothelites.

In his article Fr. Nicholas deals mainly with the stance of Saint Sophronius. The bishops of the Church are also accused of preaching the heresy of Ecumenism through the change of the calendar, the dialogues, joint prayers and other innovations. Simultaneously our Sacred Monastery is also criticized because we do not sever ecclesiastical communion with our bishops, despite the (supposed) explicit injunction of the holy Fathers and the requirement of the 15th Canon of the First-Second Synod (861)2.

I lived with the Zealot fathers who, in all other respects, are beloved virtuous monks. I admired their piety, their love for monasticism, and their struggling spirit. I ascertained, however, that they are maintaining an anticanonical schism, misinterpreting the teaching of the holy Fathers and ecclesiastical history.

With the blessing of my venerable elder Father George, I will for the moment respond concisely to the accusations of the article in order to prove that our stance is absolutely in agreement with Orthodox Ecclesiology. The basic criterion for this answer derives from the patristic teaching regarding heretics and bishops who act anticanonically.
A. THE PATRISTIC TEACHING
1. About condemned heretics

The stance of the holy Fathers regarding heretics was always the same. Saint Tarasius of Constantinople says that "in nothing do we find the fathers disagreeing, but as they are of the same spirit, they all preach and teach the same"3. Thus, Saint Gregory the Theologian teaches that we should turn away from heretics as being foreign to the catholic Church4. The heretics, according to Athanasios the Great, are wolves and forerunners of the Antichrist5, whereas, according to Basil the Great, worse than Judas6. Saint John of Damascus commands that we not give communion to heretics, nor take their own,7 since, according to Saint Theodore the Studite, the communion of heretics is a poison which darkens and blackens the soul8.

The commemoration of a heretical bishop is a defilement9, whereas, according to Saint Symeon of Thessalonica, even attending church with heretics is forbidden10. The Saints urge the heretics to abandon their heresy and to enter the catholic Church, otherwise they are not benefited by their good works11, nor can they inherit the kingdom of God12.
2. Concerning those who unite with condemned heretics

According to Canons 1 and 2 of the 3rd Oecumenical Synod,13 whoever affiliates himself with heretics falls from ecclesiastical communion and the priesthood. Therefore, Saints Savvas and Theodosios, together with all the monks of Palestine, declared that they were willing to shed their blood rather than to accept union with the Monophysites14. The unions with the unrepenting Latins in the years 1274 and 1439 were faced in the same manner. In other words, the Fathers interrupted ecclesiastical communion with whoever accepted the union of Lyons (1274). They furthermore preferred tortures and death, like the venerable Haghiorite martyrs15 and Saints Meletius and Galaktion16. Saint Mark Eugenicos also urged the Orthodox not to commune with whoever accepted the false union of Florence (1439). He used to say: "Flee from them, as one flees from a snake"17.
3. Concerning those who preach heresy

The sacred Dositheos of Jerusalem, interpreting Orthodox Ecclesiology very beautifully, presents the way in which the Church faces those who preach within Her heretical dogmas: "Heresy which springs up, if it spreads, an Oecumenical Synod judges and condemns"18. While after the Synod the unrepentant heretics were completely cut off from ecclesiastical communion.

In some cases the ecclesiastical communion with these innovators was cut off even before a Synodical judgement.19 The 15th Canon of the First-Second Synod allows this action, as long as it is done with the goal of freeing the Church from the schism and heresy of erring bishops20. Because ecclesiastical schism is not something simple, however, the final judgment and cutting off of heretics from the Church, as we previously mentioned, was entrusted to Oecumenical Synods.

The reason for the aforesaid is that heresies are not easily and immediately realized by the faithful pleroma of the Church. Some people communed with bishops who preached heretical beliefs out of ignorance, others for reasons of economy or some other potentially justifiable cause. As such, it wasn't right for them to be considered heretics before the final decision of an Oecumenical Synod. Hence, no sacred Canon or holy Father ever imposed on the Orthodox pleroma the cutting off of ecclesiastical communion with the heretics before a Synodical condemnation, nor was any clergyman punished for maintaining communion prior to said condemnation. This is, of course, not the case with those who continued to maintain communion [with heretics] after the Synodical condemnation.

Quite a few examples from ecclesiastical History prove that from the appearance of heretical teaching up to the final condemnation, there was a period during which the Church tried, through Her representatives, to bring to repentance the "new" teachers, implementing the path of oikonomia, which was recognized by all the holy Fathers. Thus, for example, whereas Monotheletism was first preached in 615, its main opponents, Saints Sophronios and Maximos, do not seem to have interrupted communion with the heretics before the Synods of the West (640-649), which anathematized them.

Oikonomia is also encountered in the case of the stance regarding the Latins. We reach the above conclusion even if we accept the extreme case, to wit, the popes officially preached the heresy of the Filioque in 1009 as opposed to spreading it unhesitatingly from the 10th century.21 The Zealots maintain that the division happened immediately, since Sergius of Constantinople removed the pope from the diptychs in 100922. They furthermore present a related testimony of the sacred Dositheos.

Their perversion of history and the obfuscation of this sacred Father's words are very apparent. The sacred Dositheos writes that the remaining patriarchs did not remove the pope from the Diptychs in 1009, but instead after forty five years (1054). It is, of course, understood that Constantinople was united with the above patriarchs during this whole period. This oikonomia towards the Latins happened because "the Patriarchs, according to the ancient ecclesiastical custom, instead of implementing the canonical justice of Keroularios, awaited the correction of the Roman Church, hence they also suffered long"23. "The Easterners (in other words), had, by way of oikonomia, kept silent for a long time, thinking the Italians would move their innovations towards the better, but [the Italians] having remained in their own stubbornness, [the Easterners] cut them off from ecclesiastical unity"24.

When also Saint Gregory (the father of Saint Gregory the Theologian) out of simplicity signed a semi-Arian creed (361), the monks cut off communion with him25. Saint Gregory and others, however, did not separate from him. This fact the Zealots usually hide, as well as the judgments of the sacred Father concerning the monks26. The union was achieved after Gregory convinced his father to publicly pronounce an Orthodox Symbol of Faith (364)27. What is more, in his first Peaceful homily, given on the occasion of union, the great Theologian censures the [zealot] monks indirectly for their rebellion, hastiness and audacity. He advises them not to return to "their own vomit", as it is preferable that we remain in the common body of the Church when we are not perfectly sure.28.
4. Concerning those who transgress the sacred Canons

How they deal with those who transgress (more or less) the sacred Canons, without touching the dogmas, is completely different. Canons 13, 14 and 15 of the First-Second Synod strictly forbid the interruption of ecclesiastical communion with bishops who fall into whatsoever"crime" before Synodical judgment. The holy Apostles had allowed the interruption of communion for reasons of "piety and righteousness"29. The word "righteousness", however, was easily misinterpreted, resulting in various schisms which were condemned by the Church. These successive schisms—which were mainly by the Studites, and which continued until the days of Saint Photios the Great—were the reason why the Saint and his Synod legislated these Canons.

Also, about fifteen years before the Synod of Saint Photios, "the holy Methodios synodically brought forth an anathema against the monks of Studium who cut themselves off from the Church, because they opposed what was said and written by Theodore against Tarasius and Nicephorus"30. The tactic of Saint Methodios to accept by oikonomia the ordinations of the Iconoclasts had caused schisms. The Venerable Saint Ioannikios condemned these schisms in various ways, maintaining that the Church must be united because justification for these schisms due to reasons of faith did not exist 31.

Likewise, the older short-term schisms of Saint Theodore the Studite in response to the oikonomia applied by the holy patriarchs Tarasius and Nikephorus "did not seem like a small fall to the Fathers, but nevertheless again they were corrected"32. Even his biographer, Michael the Studite, did not dare support the action of Saint Theodore33. These schisms were condemned by the sacred Methodius34 and Dositheos35, among others. Many monks of that time—notably those who shone forth as great Saints—also did not follow the Studites. Among them was the great confessor Theophanis, who in his "Chronography" mentions the breaking off of Saint Theodore from the "holy Church" and the "most holy patriarch"36 Nicephoros. Again, the cause of their condemnation was that that there did not exist justification owing to matters of faith, but rather a deviation from the sacred Canons.

Of course, the aforesaid notwithstanding, Saint Theodore is a great confessor; and he is a model on account of his heroic struggles against the iconoclastic heresy. Only his short-lived schisms for the above acts of oikonomia cannot comprise a rule for the Church.

Unfortunately, the Zealots publicize these schisms ad nauseam, presenting them as an ecclesiastical law and unbreakable rule, precisely because they also do not have reasons of faith for their schisms. They furthermore call "Adulterers" the opponents of the Studite—as he also called them for a time; and most of the time they hide the names of his opponents, or fail to call them Saints!37 The reference is to the Saints and Confessors Nicephoros of Constantinople, Michael of Synnada, Euthymios of Sardeon, Aimilianos of Kyzikus, Theophylactus of Nikomedia and other great Fathers.

Saint Daniel the Stylite also called to repentance those monks who separated themselves from the Church without reasons of faith. He exhorted them thus: "not without danger do we separate ourselves from our holy mother"38.

In general, all the schisms which took place on the pretext of exactitude never genuinely expressed the phronema of the Church. Needless to say, those who did not participate in these schisms were also not considered to be outside of the Church.
B. ECUMENISM AND ZEALOTISM
1. The Zealots' mistaken evaluation of Ecumenism

In the last century a modernistic tendency—seminal elements of which were observed even earlier—began taking shape in the bosom of the Church. This coincided with an intense effort to approach various heretics. One of the many sour notes heard during this time was the correction of the ecclesiastical calendar (1923-1924). This was the occasion of the schism of the Zealots from the Church. Of course, it would have been a great blessing if the calendar had remained unaltered and all of the Orthodox had continued to celebrate the feasts together.

Three great Synods condemned the Gregorian calendar at the end of the 16th century. The historian F. Vafeidis writes that "during that year (1583) a Synod gathered in Constantinople, which mainly condemned the Gregorian calendar; for according to this calendar it happens that we celebrate [Pascha] with the Jews, which is contrary to the Synod in Nicaea."39 The Zealots, when they mention the above phrase, [often] stop after the word "calendar", omitting the rest!40 It seems they believe that the main work of the Synod was the condemnation of the Gregorian calendar per se.

In fact, as the historian stated, the main reason for the condemnation of the Gregorian calendar was concelebration with the Jews—i.e., the alteration of the Paschalion [so that Pascha occasionally coincided with Passover—ed.]. This, however, never occurred, and we hope that it will never occur.* In other words, the full meaning of the above quote removes from the Zealots a reason for schism, since the change of the festal calendar [i.e., the Menaion—ed.] does not touch the dogmatic nature of the First Oecumenical Synod41, and consequently it does not comprise a heresy.

Therefore, based on the most strict Canons of the First-Second Synod, and especially on the 15th—which the Zealots constantly call upon—, the calendar schism was completely anti-canonical.

Furthermore, most of the Zealots preach that all those who accepted the new calendar, or who commune with the new calendarists, are excommunicated and are thus without divine Grace!

Of course, the Zealots were not so nave as one might think based on their odd ecclesiology. They knew they needed a dogmatic reason. One had to be found at all costs.

Unfortunately, they were aided by those who promoted a syncretistic ecumenism through ecumenistic dialogues; excessive longing for union with the heretics; occasionally imparting to them the holy Mysteries; the isolated cases of recognizing their mysteries as valid; the acceptance of an ecclesiastical character in their confessions; and joint prayers, among canonical transgressions.

The Zealots, therefore, declared as heretics those responsible for the above actions, and thus the longed for reason was found, albeit delayed. For them it is not important that the calendar schism occurred a few decades earlier. The important thing is that the dogmatic justification was found! They also rejoice that they were delivered "just in time" from the Ecumenists.

In any case, many times, during periods when heresy was being preached, the holy Fathers implemented praiseworthy oikonomia towards heretics in order to help them change their train of thought. They never, however, instigated schisms on account of some clairvoyant ability [that gave them insight into the outcome of the controversy—ed.].

Unfortunately for the Zealots, it must be stressed that the above canonical transgressions, no matter how grievous and worrisome they are, do not comprise in and of themselves heresy. They comprise "crimes" against the Canons of the First-Second Synod, as well as transgressions of other sacred Canons, but not heresy. Heresy is "to deviate in something from the dogmas laid before us, concerning the correct faith,"42 and estrangement from the faith43.

What about the sporadic and unofficial—i.e., devoid of any Synodical recognition—unorthodox declarations, agreements or theories of isolated Ecumenists? These do not comprise an official proclamation of heresy. Even the most extreme Zealots teach that the sporadic proclamations of the heresy of the Filioque—which was preached for centuries, and to a much greater degree44 than the Protestant branch theory—did not comprise a cause for schism45. Therefore, since these heterodox teachings have not been [officially] recognized or become hardened and settled, they do not comprise a cause for schism.

The faithful do have a responsibility, of course, constantly and fervently to struggle against these heterodox teachings, to wipe out or at least limit them, so that finally the Ecumenistic attitude and tactic arising from them may cease.

Even the lifting of the anathemas of 1054 against the papists by Patriarch [Athenagoras] of Constantinople—an act condemned by many Orthodox as a very great "achievement" of the Ecumenists—was a formal "gesture of love", without any relationship to the theological positions of the Orthodox and the Papists. It did not mean the Schism was over, nor was there any change in the teaching, canonical order, divine worship or ecclesiastical life of the Church, nor was there restoration of sacramental communion46.
2. Similar situations from previous times

Similar canonical transgressions, as well as direct or indirect deviations from Orthodox Ecclesiology, have occurred in times past, especially in parts of the world where the heterodox were a majority. Notably, these transgressions did not result in schisms. Unfortunately, the Orthodox diaspora has brought about an increase in these worrisome and unacceptable transgressions and deviations.

Subsequently we will mention a few occasions of oikonomia, canonical transgressions and unofficial (direct or indirect) ecclesiological deviations, on account of which the holy Fathers did not, however, interrupt ecclesiastical communion with those responsible. These cases, of course, are much milder than the official declaration of the Filioque in the Symbol of faith, or the huge spreading of the heresy of Monotheletism. Despite this, as we have previously mentioned, for many years the Fathers employed the establied method of oikonomia in these more serious cases.

1. The Fathers of the Third Oecumenical Synod condemned Nestorius. They did not, however, anathematize his "father"47 and teacher Theodore of Mopsuestia, who had already died, "so that some people will not, by being devoted to the man out of respect, cut themselves off from the churches. Their application of oikonomia in this was most excellent and wise", according to Saint Cyrill48.

Later on, when an issue arose whether to anathematize the heretic Theodore, the sacred Cyrill wrote to St. Proclus of Constantinople and urged him for the sake of "oikonomia"49 "not to allow him to be anathematized, as this would become a cause for disturbance"50. As St. Theodore the Studite wrote, "the divine Cyrill practiced oikonomia so that those of the West would not be cut off (by oikonomia he communed with them), who in the diptychs mentioned Theodore of Mopsuestia as indeed a heretic"51.

2. The 95th Canon of the Penthekte [Fifth Oecumenical] Synod defines that, kat' oikonomia, Nestorians and Monophysites can be accepted with a simple libellum52. This Canon was also used by St. Theodore for the Iconoclasts53.

Therefore, these applications of oikonomia were accepted by the Orthodox without creating schisms. Today's "super-Studites", however, accept the new calendarists with chrismation. What is more, they claim to act "out of extreme economy," saying that canonically they ought to rebaptize them (as if it were a case like the Manicheans!).

3. St. Photius bore the iniquitous customs of Rome as long as they did not impose them on the Church of Constantinople. He knew that "what is being neglected is not the faith"54, and consequently there was no reason for schism. Deviations included fasting on the Sabbath, eating non-fasting foods during the first week of Great Lent, forbidding Priests to marry, allowing Chrism to be administered only by the bishops55, and overturning the apostolic restriction concerning the eating of choked animals and blood. Thus, according to the Eighth Oecumenical Synod (879), the restoration of the relationships between Saint Photius and Rome occurred through the recognition of the Symbol of Faith without the addition56, though Rome did not cast off the aforementioned customs.

4. The holy Fathers bore the Western church of the 10th century, which was undergoing the age of "the reign of fornicators"57.

5. During the age of the Latin occupation the sacred the Germanos the New of Constantinople, along with his Synod, allowed kat' oikonomia the Cypriot Bishops to accept the profiteering demands of the Latins. Specifically "for their successors to be appointed by the Latin archbishop, who also has the right to judge even every episcopal decision that has been appealed by one of the litigants."58

6. Following the schism of 1054 there was always a longing for union. At times many epistles were exchanged and dialogues occurred, specifically 1098, 1113, 1136, 1154, 1169, 1175, 1206, 1214, 1232, 1234, 1250, 1253, 1254, 1272, 1333, 1339, 1366, and 1438. Furthermore, in 1253 concessions also occurred59; and in 1136 and 1234, conciliatory solutions were suggested by the Orthodox, such as the phrase "the spirit proceeds from the father through the son"60. Schisms on account of the dialogues, however, did not occur, except during the false unions of 1274 and 1439.

Today, both the Haghiorite fathers and all pious Christians proclaim that they will never accept union with the Latins, Monophysites or other heretics if they do not denounce their heretical dogmas.

Unfortunately, in texts of the Zealots we observe much confusion. The Latin-minded ones which accepted the Union of 1274 are identified with those who today engage in joint prayers, dialogues, excessive pro-union efforts, or other similar activities. Likewise, the words of St. Mark of Ephesus concerning those who accepted the false Union of Florence are also applied to them, as if they are the same as those who actually entered into union with the heretics! If matters were so simple Orthodoxy would have been lost centuries ago.

7. St. Mark, when discussing the prospect of true union with the Latins, named them not brothers but "fathers"61. His teacher and great opponent of the Latins, Joseph Vryennios, had previously held union discussions with the Latins. He furthermore wrote a consultative homily regarding the union under consideration. In it, however, he fiercely condemned the "Ecumenists" of his age: in other words, those who wanted—according to the "branch theory" of that day—to be united with the pope even though the Filioque remained in the Symbol. He urged, without separating from those irresponsible parties, that any union must occur in a correct manner—i.e., that the Orthodox not be subjected to error, so that "we do not fall from the intention"62 (of true union in Christ.)

8. Many transgressions or deviations (direct and indirect) from the Orthodox phronema—transgressions that are similar to today's—occurred in those times, especially in parts of the world where the Latins abounded. A multitude of testimonies during the 16th and 17th centuries indicate that it was customary for the Orthodox to commune with the Latins, and vice versa. To this we add the commemoration and recognition of Latin bishops, isolated concelebrations, mixed Mysteries, the granting of Mysteries to heretics, funerals for heretics, studies in heretical schools,63 the granting leave to the papist Capuchins to confess and teach, etc. Even Metropolitans and monks confessed to Latins (in areas occupied by the Turks and Latins), something which the sacred Makarios of Patmos condemned fiercely, without, however, initiating a schism.64

During the middle of the 17th century "the monasteries of Athos repeatedly called the Jesuits to found a school on the Holy Mount for the spiritual training of monks"!65 Also in the same period "in many places, in Jerusalem, in Alexandria and other places, in one church, in one area, the easterners chant, and in the other [the westerners chant]"!66 During the same periods dialogues also occurred with various branches of the Monophysites and Protestants, who were liked and defended by a significant number of Orthodox Christians. Nevertheless, schisms did not occur in the Orthodox Church, even though holy Fathers struggled against union with groups such as the "Lutheran Calvinists"67.

9. St. Nikodemos condemned the "Latin-minded ones" of his age, or "volunteer defenders of the Latin false baptism", as he named them68. In 1755 the Eastern Patriarchs synodically decided that the Orthodox "who came from the Latins should be baptized, because until then the Latins were accepted into Orthodoxy mainly by chrismation. Despite this, the Latin-minded ones fought this decision and continued accepting those having the papal sprinkling of the Latins merely by chrismation.

St. Nikodemos grieved over the great falsification, corruption and misinterpretation of the sacred Canons, and for the "fruit that is fatal and an accessory to the perdition of the soul" which was born of them69. He also mourned over the severe transgressions of the sacred Canons (especially Canon 6 of the Fourth, and Canons 14, 19, and 23 of the Sixth). As well he grieved for the Simoniacs, who, according to Saint Tarasius, are worse than the Pnevmatomachi70. He wrote that this God-hated (according to Saint Gennadios) heresy had become a virtue71, and that most are ordained for money72. Simultaneously he prudently censured the theologians of his age for their heretical and blasphemous mindsets73.

The Saint, along with the other Kollyvades Fathers, struggled fiercely for the sacred traditions. Yet nowhere can we find that they interrupted communion with the Latin-minded ones or the other erring Orthodox. These prudent zealots, contrary to those of today, were able to discern the difference between the Latin-minded ones of their age and the more egregious Latin-minded ones who entered into the false unions of 1274 and a 1439.

St. Nikodemos knew that there are "two types of governing in the Church"74: exactitude (akribeia) and economy (oikonomia). Although he was a lover of akribeia, he implemented oikonomia, as a long as there was no officially preached heresy. He taught that when hierarchs or priests transgress, we must toil to convince them that God's will should be done, without however making schisms which desolate our souls75.

10. The sacred Synod of the Church of Greece, in Her decision of 1834, officially allowed marriages with heretics (they were unofficially done prior to this), a decision which is "illegal and contrary to the sacred Canons"76. Constantine Economos relates also the dissolution of more than four hundred monasteries, the approval of forbidden marriage relations, the founding of theological schools according to Protestant models, and many other painful things that occurred during that time.

It should be obvious, of course, that the above canonical transgressions are condemnable. Moreover, whoever takes them as a model for their relationship with the heterodox is not imitating the holy Fathers, who struggled for their elimination.
3. Contemporary Zealotism

We believe that the inconsistency of the Zealots is made clear when they equate the severity of the calendar change or joint prayers with the fearful heresy of Nestorius, which overturned the "mystery awaited of the ages" 81 and corrupted the meaning of the salvation of the human race.

Contemporary Zealotism cannot be seen as in agreement with the teaching and action of the holy Fathers. It rather resembles the Studite schisms [arising from canonical infractions] (we do not mean, of course, those which happened in a praiseworthy manner and with an utterly confessional mindset against the heresy of Iconoclasm). This resemblance leads to its condemnation, since these particular Studite schisms were not recognized by anyone, but instead were condemned. In reality, however, the present-day schisms do not exactly resemble these Studite schisms either, since at that time there were not so many mutual defrocking and "Churches". The unsuspected and lightening-quick defrockings and "acquittals" of zealot clergy can find no parallel in church history.

The Zealots have fallen into a multitude of contradictions, from which it is impossible for them to be freed, since they persist in their positions. Specifically:

1. When they want to justify their schism due to the calendar change (1924) or one of their internal schisms (in other words, situations that do not involve heresy), they call upon the Studite schisms (which justify a schism for canonical transgressions) or the 31st Apostolic Canon, which allows a schism for reasons "of piety and righteousness". They do this, as we have noted, by misinterpreting the word "righteousness".

2. When however they want to justify their schism due to Ecumenism, or in order to prevent one of their internal schisms, they call upon the 15th Canon of the First-Second Synod (which allows schism only for reasons of heresy).

Of course the invocation, on the one hand, of both the Studite schisms and of the 31st Apostolic Canon, and on the other hand of the 15th Canon of the First-Second Synod, creates a huge contradiction; for the latter was instituted (as we have said above) in order to avert the Studite schisms and to clarify or interpret properly the 31st Apostolic Canon!

The above contradictions are what contribute to the Zealot divisions. The Zealots typically explain the existence of nine churches for the Genuine Orthodox Christians, as well as other independent groups, as the fruit of bad administration and human passions. We are not in agreement. Rather, their schisms are an outpouring of their utterly deluded and distorted ecclesiology. Their divisions will never end as long as they invoke the Studite schisms and the 31st Apostolic Canon for disagreements over the consecration of metropolitans82, ordinations83, constitutions84, the publication of an encyclical against the new identification cards85, iconography86 and other minor issues. (There even exists a group of "Hexagonists"!) The presidential chair of "the Synod in Resistance" was created out of three schisms, which brought about an equal number of defrockings. These activities remind us of the schisms of those abandoned by divine Grace, such as the Monophysites, Protestants and Old Believers.

Their internal schisms prove how groundless is their schism from the Church. The ease with which they characterize the remaining Zealots as heretics reveals that long ago that they have lost an understanding of the true meaning of heresy and ecclesiastical schism. The simple people have become confused because they are constantly found in a different group without even realizing it!

Every group believes that they alone constitute the Church of Christ, resulting in the performance of rechrismations between themselves. According to information we received, an archbishop was even reordained. They have approximately fifty bishops in Greece for only 60-70,000 people. Years ago the "Andrewite" group in Greece had ten bishops and eighteen priests. Half of the groups have bishops consecrated by either one hierarch or no hierarch at all.

In 1955 one of the two groups was left without a bishop. By necessity they took refuge in the graceless (according to their theory, since they communed with the new calendarists) Russians of the Diaspora87. The ends justified the means. Unfortunately they were not able to recognize that this was matter of abandonment by God, which their impasse had revealed.

The Zealots, despite their polemics against Ecumenism, appear to fully implement Ecumenist practices. This is so, because the "heretical" new calendarists are [often] allowed to receive divine Communion and other Mysteries [in their churches].

We reiterate that the means by which they deceive and gather to themselves followers is the misappropriation or misinterpretation of Church history. In time this should be more fully revealed in a detailed and systematic refutation of zealot ecclesiology.

For all these things we believe that whoever joins the schism of the Zealots in order to fight syncretistic Ecumenism is making a serious mistake before God. They harm themselves, as well as those who are properly struggling against Ecumenism, and who are in need of strengthening. Despite our strong words of correction, we love the Zealots and pray that God will enlighten them to be enlisted in the Church, which would allow them to follow the old calendar, as has happened in previous instances. We are certain that the Church will exhaust every oikonomia to effect their return and will show the foremost care for them, since, moreover, they are not heretics.
C. THE CASE OF ST. SOPHRONIOS

Father Nicholas criticizes me for what I wrote concerning the stance of Saint Sophronius during the period of Monotheletism. He said that from this I concluded that the Fathers did not cease commemorating heretics before a Synodical diagnosis occurred. I never said such a thing. Rather, I wrote that, based on the stance of Saint Sophronius, especially in his address "to the concelebrant"88 regarding the heretic Sergius of Constantinople in 634, the obvious forbearance and oikonomia of the Church to those officially proclaiming heresy is proved. By implication, of course, this oikonomia prevails much more today—an age during which no similar heresy is being so openly preached. Father Nicholas describes the ecclesiastical condition during that time and concludes that in 634 no heresy was officially being preached. As such, he argues that there was no reason for interrupting communion or applying oikonomia.

He specifically supports the following:

1. The events leading up to the heretical "Exposition" of Sergius (638) consisted of discussions and other efforts to ensure the triumph of the Orthodox position. Clarification was needed concerning the definitions of Chalcedon, which solved very difficult ideological problems.

2. In 634 Saint Sophronius rightly calls Sergius a concelebrant because the latter's Monothelitism is not officially proclaimed until in 638.

I answer the above as follows:

His first argument is surprising. After carefully researching the writings of more than twenty-eight historians I realized that a clarification of the Definition of Chalcedon (which had occurred 170 years before) was not at all in view at that time. On the contrary, the only goal was a means for union with the Monophysites. As a result, the following expression: "two natures in Christ on the one hand, but one energy and will"89. This confession comprised the bare minimum threshold for Monophysitism, since all the Monophysites accepted one energy and will90..

Father Nicholas writes that efforts were put forth for the Orthodox positions to prevail. Does this not reveal that heretical views existed against which the Orthodox ones had to prevail? It is clear that the Zealots label certain periods when heresy was preached in one of two ways, according to their whims: "a period of heresy" or "a period of struggle for Orthodox positions to prevail" (concealing by this choice or words that heresy was truly being preached.)

Moreover, in ten points of the article Father Nicholas admits that Sergius had an heretical phronema (mindset), that he negotiated union (which also was achieved), and that Saint Sophronius reacted to the union and condemned Monoenergitism. These events are not, however, described in chronological order. Moreover, the terms "union with heretics" and "heresy" are also avoided, resulting in confusion. His is, for the most part, a copy of the synoptic history of Stephanidis.

The following precise enumeration of the ecclesiastical situation at that time will thus prove how groundless Father Nicholas' second argument is:

Sergius of Constantinople sent to the bishop of Pharan Theodore a false libellum of Minas of Constantinople (+552), asking his opinion about the monenergetic and monothelite positions of this libellum. Theodore accepted it. Sergius also sent this libellum to a certain heretic, Paul, stating his and Theodore's agreement with it. These two events, which must are surely not the only ones, are mentioned by Saint Maximus in his dialogue with Pyrrus91. The historians place them around 615-618, since it is certified later in the homily of St. Maximus.

The Saint mentions that Sergius also wrote to the Severian George Arsa and asked him to send patristic statements about the one energy. He furthermore told him that based on these statements he would enter into union with them. Saint John the Merciful became acquainted with this epistle and wanted to depose Sergius. However the invasion of the Persians (619)92 in that year prevented him.

Around this time Saint Maximus embraced the monastic life. He was frustrated by the condition of the Church due to the expansion of Monotheletism93. As a result, when he saw the heresy "expanding rather completely"94, he departed around the year 626 to Africa, where Orthodoxy prevailed.

In 626 Sergius also wrote to Cyros of Phasidos, certifying the heresy95. In 629, based on the acceptance of one energy and will, he is united with the monophysite bishop Athanasius, whom he actually recognizes as Patriarch of Antioch96. Cyrus ascends in 630 to the throne of Alexandria and begins a struggle for union with the Monophysites97. Saints Sophronius and Maximus unsuccessfully try to prevent him 98. Cyrus united with the Monophysites in 633 based on the heretical confession "one theandric energy in Christ"99.

Sergius, who had already projected "in many ways his own illness" and corrupted "the majority of the Church"100, accepted this union. He was furthermore united in the same year with the heretical Armenians, based on the same heretical confession101. Saint Sophronius then went to Constantinople, and "with the appropriate humble-mindedness of his schema"102, entreated Sergius not to renew this old heresy. Frustrated by Sergius' lack of repentance, however, he goes to Jerusalem and informs the believers that the patriarch and the pope are heretics103.

Sergius was troubled by these Orthodox voices. He decided to abandon Monoenergitism and to limit himself to milder Monotheletism104. In the "Vote", which he published around the end of the 633, he preached the heresy in a milder form. St. Maximus hoped for a moment that he would disavow the "innovation"105, which had occurred in Alexandria. Furthermore in his epistle to Abbot Pyrrus he likened Sergius with Moses106.

In 634 St. Sophronius ascended to the throne of Jerusalem. He sent his enthronement epistle to Sergius and the patriarchs, striking a blow against the heresy of one energy and will. Nevertheless, he refers to Sergius as "the most holy of all bishops, and most blessed brother and concelebrant Sergius"107. He asked him to accept his dogmatic epistle and to send him the "longed for letters", which will clearly express the correct faith108. Unfortunately, Sergius did not change, and in 638 he publishes his heretical "Exposition".

So we see that Saint Sophronius was in communion with Sergius until 634, even though the latter preached heresy from about 615, had caused the frustration of St. John in 619, had corrupted the majority of the Church, and had accepted the unions of 629 and 633.** We have no historical witness that the sacred Sophronius cut communion until his repose in 638.

These events triumphantly proves the point of which I spoke, to wit, that the Church was longsuffering and used economy towards bishops who then preached heresy. These events also show that the Zealots are wrong when they argue that the 15th Canon of the First-Second Synod is obligatory109. In the Synod of the Lateran (649) against the Monothelites there is clear talk about this oikonomia. In his libellum Sergius, bishop of the Cypriots writes the following: "For until today we kept silent owing to oikonomia, thinking they would correct their own teachings"110.

I will conclude by refuting one more argument of the article. Father Nicholas mentions that St. Maximus did not accept the conciliatory "Formula" (Typos) and cut communion with the heretics. "Finally", he concludes, "because he was chased from Constantinople, the Saint managed with the convincingness of his teaching to call Local Synods in Chalcedon (646) and in Rome (641) during the reign of Pope John the Fourth, and in 649 with St. Martin, which condemned Monophysitism and his Monophysitic expressions".

This is a perversion of history. For the sake of the simpler readers I will only say the following: Sergius' lack of repentance became finally became clear in 638111. Saint Maximus then began new struggles to convene Synods which condemned Monothelitism (641, 646, 649). During this period the Saint must have also cut communion with the heretics. The "Formula (Typos)" which Father Nicholas mentions, was published in 648112. Saint Maximus was led in 653 to Constantinople to be judged113. He was chased out in 655 and sent to exile in Vizyi of Thrace, and finally to Laziki114, where he died as a confessor.

So Father Nicholas in his article commits an historical error when he writes that St. Maximus, after being chased out in 650, managed to call the Synods of 641,646 and 649! Accordingly, the result would be [if Fr. Nicholas' historical math were correct] the Zealots' beloved conclusion, namely, first the breaking of communion and later synodical judgment.

Finally, we posit that Zealotism and syncretistic Ecumenism actually comprise two great ecclesiastical deviations, both of which bring about many harmful things for the Church. We pray that the God-man Jesus will protect His Church from both of these extremes, abundantly spread abraod His illuminating Grace, "so that we will all say the same thing, and schisms will not be among us"115.
Endnotes

* The author probably has in mind only the Church of Greece. Concerning all of the Orthodox Churches, "The sole exceptions are the autonomous Church of Finland, which adopted the uncanonical Western Paschalion at the instigation of the Patriarch of Constantinople, after the so-called "Pan-Orthodox" Congress of 1923, as well as several parishes in Western Europe, including that of Froisek (Switzerland), which celebrate Pascha at the same time as Roman Catholics and Protestants and thereby, at times, with the Jews, contrary to the First Canon of the Council of Antioch...." A Scientific Examination of the Orthodox Church Calendar, p. 173.

** See also the Life of St. Meletius the Confessor. During the Antiochian Schism he was consecrated in part by Arians, in full knowledge thereof. His irenic, conciliatory personality is similar to that of St. Sophronius.

1. Volume 27 July-December 1999.

2. P.G. 137, 1068 A-C. Presided over by St. Photios the Great.

3. S. Milia "Of the sacred synods...collection, Paris 1761, vol. 2, p. 737.

4. Letter 102, P.G. 37, 196A.

5. Faith of the saints...The Fathers in Nicaea, P.G. 28, 1641C.

6. Letter 240, P.G. 32, 897A.

7. Precise exposition of the Orthodox faith, ch. 13, (86), P.G. 94, 1153B.

8. Letter 24, book 2, P.G. 99, 1189C.

9. Saint Theodore the Studite, Letter 220, book 2, P.G. 99, 1669A.

10. Interpretation concerning the divine temple, ch. 28, P.G. 155, 708D.

11. Saint Anastasius of Antioch, Guide, P.G. 89, 48C.

12. Saint Ignatius the Godbearer, P.G. 96, 508C.

13. P.G. 137, 349-353.

14. Saint Symeon Metaphrastes, Life and lifestyle of our venerable and godbearing father Theodosius the Ceonobiarch, 49, P.G. 114, 517C.

15. A. Dimitrakopoulou, History of the schism, Leipsia, 1867, p. 70-74.

16. Saint Nikodemos, New Eklogion, p. 320-322.

17. Orthodox Christians...everywhere upon the earth, 6 in Jn. Karmiris, The dogmatic and symbolic monuments of the Orthodox and catholic Church, in Athens 1960, vol. 1, p. 427.

18. Dodekabiblos, book 4, ch. 10, 3.

19. Saint Cyrill of Alexandria, letter 11, P.G. 77, 81BC.

20. Saint Nikodemos the Haghiorite, Rudder, Athens 1970, p. 358.

21. F. Vafeidou, Ecclesiastical History, 113:1.

22. Concerning ecclesiastical communion and the memorial and the 15th sacred canon of the 1st and 2nd holy synod, related to them. Holy Mountain 1993, p. 62.

23. Op.cit. book 8, ch. 2:6.

24. Op.cit. book 6, ch. 7:9.

25. Presbyter Gregory, Life of Saint Gregory, P.G. 35, 261C.

26. Orthodox Informer, Sacred Metropolis of Oropos and Filis, vol. 27, p. 1, 2.

27. Presbyter Gregory, op. cit. P.G. 35, 261D-264A.

28. Ch. 19-20, P.G. 35, 745-748.

29. Canon 31, P.G. 137, 96C.

30. M. Gedeon, Patriarchal Charts, Athens 1996, p. 185.

31. Saint Symeon Metaphrastes, Life.....of our venerable father Ioannikios, ch. 51, 52, .P.G. 116, 85A-88B.

32. Concerning Tarasius and Nicephorus the holy patriarchs, P.G. 99, 1853C.

33. P.G. 99, 157CD.

34. Concerning Tarasius and Nicephorus the holy patriarchs, P.G. 99, 1853D.

35. Op. cit. book 7, ch. 4:5.

36. P.G. 108, 992B.

37. Orthodox Informer, Sacred Metropolis of Oropos and Filis, vol. 3427, p. 1.

38. Les Saints Stylites, Bryxelles 1923, p. 85.

39. Op. cit. 216.

40. Voice from the Holy Mountain, that is: Response to...the censure of the Calendar accusations," Holy Mountain 1981, p. 16.

41. 1st canon of the synod in Antioch, P.G. 137, 1276B-1277A.

42. Saint Symeon the new Theologian, Catechism 32.

43. Basil the Great, Canonical epistle 1 (188), ch. 1, P.G. 32, 665A.

44. V. Stefanidou, Ecclesiastical History, Athens 1970, 22, p. 343-344.

45. Concerning ecclesiastical communion and the memorial and the 15th sacred canon of the 1st and 2nd holy synod, related to them. Holy Mountain 1993, p. 62.

46. Jn. Karmiris, The dogmatic and symbolic monuments of the Orthodox and Catholic Church, Graz ..1968, vol. 2, p. 1024 (1104).

47. Saint Cyrill of Alexandria, letter 79, P.G. 77, 341A.

48. Letter 72, P.G. 77, 345B.

49. Op. cit. P.G. 77, 345D.

50. Op. cit. P.G. 77, 344B.

51. Letter 49, book 1, P.G. 99, 1085C.

52. Saint Nikodemos the Haghiorite Rudder, Athens 1970, p. 305. English editor note: "As for Manicheans, and Valentinians, and Marcionists, and those from similar heresies, they have to give us certificates (called libelli) and anathematize their heresy, the Nestorians, and Nestorius, and Eutyches and Dioscorus, and Severus, and the other exarchs of such heresies, and those who entertain their beliefs, and all the aforementioned heresies, and thus they are allowed to partake of holy Communion." (The Rudder, p. 401)

53. Letter 40, book 1, P.G. 99, 1052C.

54. Saint Photios, Letter 2, book 1: P.G. 102, 605C.

55. Saint Photios, Letter 13 book 1: P.G. 102, 724-725.

56. F. Vafeidou, op. cit. 112, 1.

57. Op. cit. 136, 1.

58. K. N. Satha, Library of the Middle Ages, Venice 1873, vol. 2, p. 85.

59. V. Stefanidou, op. cit. 23, p. 384, Feida, Ecclesiastical History, Athens 1994, vol. 2, p. 588.

60. F. Vafeidou, op. cit. 146, 4.

61. Op. cit. 149, 2.

62. The discovered texts, Thessalonica 1991, p. 400.

63. V. Stefanidou, op. cit. 51, 52.

64. Evangelical Trumpet, in Athens 1867, p. 327.

65. Theodoretus monk, Eucharistic participation in the Holy Mountain, 1972, p. 35-37.

66. Op. cit.

67. Saint Nikodemos the Haghiorite, Christoetheia, in Chios 1887, p. 377.

68. Rudder, Athens 1970, footnote on the 46th apostolic canon, p. 56.

69. Op. cit. p. 12.

70. Op. cit. p. 719.

71. Op. cit. interpretation of the 22nd of the 6th, p. 238.

72. Op. cit. footnote 6, p. 696.

73. Op. cit. footnote on the 124th of the synod in Carthage, p. 527.

74. Op. cit. footnote on the 46th apostolic canon p. 53.

75. Concerning constant communion, Volos 1961, part 3, objection, 12, p. 117.

76. Constantine Oikonomos of the Okonomons, The preserved ecclesiastical writings, Athens 1864, vol. 2, p. 246.

81. Eph. 3:9.

82. Periodical "Church G.O.C. (Genuine Orthodox Christians) of Greece", Athens, vol. 1, p. 15.

83. Periodical "The voice of Orthodoxy", Athens, issue 880, p. 10.

84. Periodical "Ecclesiastical tradition", Athens, issue 104, p. 39.

85. Periodical "Church G.O.C. Greece, Athens, issue 1, p. 24.

86. Periodical "Preacher of genuine Orthodox" Athens, issue 214, p. 214-265.

87. S. Karamitsou, The ordinations of the G.O.C. from a canonical viewpoint, Athens 1997, p. 19.

88. Synodical epistle, P.G. 87, 3, 314A.

89. F. Vafeidou, op. cit. 74, 1.

90. V. Stefanidou, op. cit. 14, p. 242.

91. P.G. 91, 332B-333A.

92. Op. cit.

93. As the biographers of Saint Symeon Metaphrastes, Nikodemos, Agapios, mention, Life and struggles of Saint...Maximus, P.G. 90, 68-110.

94. Life and struggles of Saint Maximus, P.G. 90, 73D-76A.

95. Dialogue...concerning the ecclesiastical dogmas, P.G. 91, 333A.

96. Religious and ethical encyclopedia, Athens 1962-1968, vol. 11, p. 103.

97. P. Christou, Hellenic Patrology, Thessalonica 1992, vol. 5, p. 260.

98. Op. cit. p. 268.

99. F. Vafeidou, op. cit. .74, 2.

100. Dialogue...concerning the ecclesiastical dogmas, P.G. 91, 333A.

101. Religious and ethical encyclopedia, Athens 1962-1968, vol. 11, p. 103

102. Dialogue...concerning the ecclesiastical dogmas, P.G. 91, 333B.

103. Dositheos of Jerusalem, op. cit. book 6, ch. 6:4.

104. F. Stefanidou, op. cit. 14: p. 244.

105. Maximus the Confessor, letter 19, .P.G. 91, 592

106. Op. cit.

107. Synodical epistle P.G. 87, 3, 3148A.

108. Op. cit. .87, 3, 3200B.

109. Theodoretus monk, Orthodoxy and heresy, Athens 1982, p. 63.

110. Dositheos of Jerusalem, op. cit. book 6, ch. 7:9.

111. A. D. Kyriakou, Ecclesiastical History, 101.

112. Op. cit.

113. Maximus the Confessor, Explanation of the movement...during secretus, ch. 1, P.G. 90, 110C.

114. Maximus the Confessor, Concerning what was done...discussed, ch. 33, P.G. 90, 172B.

115. 1 Cor. 1:10.

Translated from the Greek by a Greek Orthodox Priest who wishes to remain anonymous. Original monograph published in 2000 by the Holy Monastery of Saint Gregory. Posted to the OCIC on 6/17/2007.

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So I will ask you this. How many bishops were on the side of St Mark at Florence. Or how many professed the true faith to the Iconoclast.

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That is the line employed by every schismatic down through the ages. The world must have been flooded by St. Marks given how many people have claimed to be his spiritual heir. You obviously did not read either of the posts I put up.

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I did read them. And its the same old argument.We could go on forever and it wont change either of our minds.Are you Orthodox? I cant see your profile. I could agree that we are schismatic now but we were not in the past.We were with ROCA and everybody reconized us as cononical and even wanted to be like us but mabey the OCA since they thought they were us.We are just a traditional Synod that happens to be the largest in Greece. I know that it looks bad but hey you have to follow your heart.In the traditional church I found my home.

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Some quotes which were interestingly overlooked by the authors of the subject document on the issue of "Papism" and Papal Primacy:

(1.) Speaking of St. Peter: "most eminent of the apostles, and the mouthpiece of the disciples, and the leader of their group"St. John Chrysostom-88th Homily on St. John's Gospel (PG59, 478)

(2.) Re: Peter's fall in the thrice denial of Christ, in his 5th Homily on penitence, St. John Chrysostom says that after so great a fault committed by his denial, St. Peter was not only restored to his former honor, but was also given jurisdiction over the universal Church.(PG 49, 308)

(3.) In his 8th discourse on the Jews, St. John Chrysostom again praises the repentance of St. Peter, which so thoroughly removed his fault that he becomes again head of the apostles and the whole world is committed to his care.(PG 48 951)

(4.) St. Gregory of Nyssa, sermon on St. Stephen,speaking of St. Peter as head of the Church: :"According to the privilege granted him by the Lord, he (Peter) is that unbreakable and most solid rock upon which the Savior built His Church".(PG 46 733).

(5.)Letter of St.Theodore the Studite to Pope Paschal I : "Hear me, o head of the apostles, placed by God as shepherd of the sheep of Christ, holder of the keys of the kingdom of heaven, the rock of faith on which the Catholic Church has been built. For you are Peter; you adorn the throne of Peter and rule from it." (PG 99-1151).

All of these First Milennium Eastern Fathers had evidently succumbed to the heresy of Papism.

Some additional and pertinent comments by a more modern Russian Orthodox theologian, Vassili Rosanov:
" The words of Christ, 'feed my lambs, feed my sheep' contain the whole doctrine of the papacy...which follows certainly as a corollary from them. Our theologians don't know how to explain them, except to keep repeating like parrots: 'All the apostles are equal; no one is greater than others.' That is why the bishop of Rome is equal only to the bishop of Kaluga. How such arguments are repugnant to our Russian honesty!".
Along the Walls of the Church , St. Petersburg, Russia, 1906.

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Deacon Robert,
If you wish to cite Vasily Rozanov [en.wikipedia.org] in defense of the RCC, go for it. But I don't think that's going to carry much weight among the Orthodox. The dude sounds kinda creepy to me. But hey, if you want to claim him as one of yours, more power to you.

As for producing mass short citations from the Fathers (there is actually a term for this practice which I can not remember) I am not impressed. Both Catholics and Orthodox have long lists of popular quotes from the Fathers they like to drag out to "prove" their side is right. These quotes are far too often taken out of context. While this form of "debate" is popular among polemicists in each church, I find it rather shallow and prefer not go there. Not saying there is not a time to quote the Fathers. But if one could establish from a quick glance at some patristic citations such as those you chose to produce (we have are own ready list of anti-Roman quotes), don't you think the schism would have been rather short lived? Or perhaps you think the Orthodox have never actually read the Fathers. Honestly the implication of your quotes is a little insulting.

Now if you want to delve into a more substantive work on the ecclesiolgy of the early church I would suggest the work of Met. +John Zizioulas THE UNITY OF THE CHURCH IN THE DIVINE EUCHARIST AND THE BISHOP DURING THE FIRST THREE CENTURIES [oodegr.com]. This is not light reading and it requires more than a quick Google search to dig up some pre-canned quotes off some Roman Catholic apologetic website. But it is well worth the read if you have the patience.

Under the mercy,
John

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What I like about Deacon Robert is the way he retrospectively imposes second millennium Latin concepts of primacy onto the words of Chrysostom, who never held any such ideas. Just because Peter is the first and the mouthpiece of the Apostles does not mean he had supremacy over the Apostles. I also seriously doubt that Chrysostom ever used the term "universal jurisdiction" in the sense of the plena potestas of Pastor aeternus. To describe someone as the "head" of a body, in the patristic age, does not imply any legalistic subordination of the rest of the body to that person; neither does having the whole world committed to Peter's care imply that Peter has any "jurisdiction" over the whole world. I also believe the translations of both Gregory of Nyssa and Theodore Studites, and Deacon Robert's interpretation of them, are tendentious and basically in error. The consensus of the Fathers, including Gregory of Nyssa, was Christ as the rock upon which the Church is founded, not the person of Simon Peter.

Some citations of my own might be in order:

Ignatios of Antioch, Epistle to the Philadelphians, 8:

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The Comforter is holy, and the Word is holy, the Son of the Father, by whom He made all things, and exercises a providence over them all. This is the Way which leads to the Father, the Rock, the Defence, the Key, the Shepherd, the Sacrifice, the Door of knowledge, through which have entered Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, Moses and all the company of the prophets, and these pillars of the world, the apostles, and the spouse of Christ, on whose account He poured out His own blood, as her marriage portion, that He might redeem her
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Justin Martyr, Second Apology, 113, 114:

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For I have shown that Christ was proclaimed by the prophets in parables a Stone and a Rock.

And our hearts are thus circumcised from evil, so that we are happy to die for the name of the good Rock, which causes living water to burst forth for the hearts of those who by Him have loved the Father of all, and which gives those who are willing to drink of the water of life.

The Shepherd of Hermas, Par.9, Ch.12:

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First of all, sir, I said, explain this to me: What is the meaning of the rock and the gate? This rock, he answered, and this gate are the Son of God.

Even Tertullian, in the West, in his pre-Montanist phase:

Against the Jews, Chapter 9:

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For, because Jesus Christ was to introduce the second people (which is composed of us nations, lingering deserted in the world aforetime into the land of promise, flowing with milk and honey (that is, into the possession of eternal life, than which nought is sweeter); and this had to come about, not through Moses (that is, not through the Law's discipline), but through Joshua (that is, through the new law's grace), after our circumcision with a knife of rock (that is, with Christ's precepts, for Christ is in many ways and figures predicted as a rock; therefore the man who was being prepared to act as images of this sacrament was inaugurated under the figure of the Lord's name, even so as to be named Jesus.

Cyprian of Carthage:

Epistles 15:4:

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For what do you ask from the Lord's mercy which you do not deserve to obtain? — you who have thus observed the Lord's commands, who have maintained the Gospel discipline with the simple vigour of your faith, who, with the glory of your virtue uncorrupted, have stood bravely by the Lord's commands, and by His apostles, and have confirmed the wavering faith of many by the truth of your martyrdom? Truly, Gospel witnesses, and truly, Christ's martyrs, resting upon His roots, founded with strong foundation upon the Rock, you have joined discipline with virtue, you have brought others to the fear of God, you have made your martyrdoms, examples.

Epistles 62:8:

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If they shall thirst, he says, He shall lead them through the deserts, shall bring forth water for them out of the rock; the rock shall be cloven, and the water shall flow, and my people shall drink; which is fulfilled in the Gospel, when Christ, who is the Rock, is cloven by a stroke of the spear in His passion; who also, admonishing what was before announced by the prophet, cries and says, If any man thirst, let him come and drink. He that believeth on me, as the Scripture saith, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

When looking at the Fathers, it is clear that first of all, Christ is the Rock upon which the Church is founded, with a secondary view that the rock is Peter's confession of faith ("You are the Christ, the Son of the living God"), and that all who share in his faith are likewise the rock; or, like Cyprian of Carthage and Tertullian, that all the bishops are likewise the rock on which the Church is founded. Only on early Father, Cyril of Jerusalem, identifies Peter's person as the rock, and he is noteworthy precisely because he stands alone in that assessment.

But, at the very least, we should be grateful that Deacon Robert did not cite the acclamation of the Council of Chalcedon as evidence that the early Church saw the Pope as speaking with the voice of Peter.





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Deacon Robert,
While this form of "debate" is popular among polemicists in each church, I find it rather shallow and prefer not go there.

I normally do not engage in polemicism. However, the document you posted here is highly polemical. Being traditional myself, when I see the Church I belong to being referred to as heretical, with its Sacraments being referred to as graceless, I will come to its defense. I have never been big on "ecumenism", seeing much of what is done in it's name as possessing the danger of indifferentism. At one time my own view was that the only really valuable form of "ecumenism" might be that between orthodox Catholicism, East & West, and Eastern Orthodoxy, since there is much commonality in belief. However, I am coming around to see that I was naive.


In Christ,
Dn. Robert

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