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It will not last long. Those Easterners with bad theology who admired all the silliness that happened in the Woodstock / Post-Vatican II generation in the Roman Catholic Church are now in positions of authority in the Eastern Catholic Churches (you can find the same silliness in Orthodoxy but to a far less degree). And so they have the power to push their silliness on the Church. The following generation is far more faithful. Patience, along with hard work (good scholarship and example) will triumph.

It's called the Long March Through The Institutions, and for the Boomers, the march is about over. It's going to be fun watching this most solipsistic of generations, for whom history began on the day they were born, and who invented everything, including sex, confront mortality for the first time in human history,

I did a bit of research and this is something that was discussed at the diocesan level in Toronto as a response to HRN1, and up to the discretion of the parish priests. Yes the spoons are burned. Also St. Elias in Brampton would likely be the LAST parish to ever consider this (i.e. never!)

St. Elias is very traditional. St. Elias has helped bring back Saturday Vespers to other parishes - the booklet one of the other parishes uses was designed by them. I am now a Vespers guy.

Now my bewilderment has only increased, for we all know that plastic does not easily burn!

If such innovations are absolutely necessary it is unfortunate that there are no manufacturers of wooden spoons, other than those two inch spoons sometimes used with ice cream cups.

They would burn more easily.

perhaps the solution lies with origami?



hawjk

Assuming that certain Protestant ecclesial bodies return the remaining wine to other uses after a communion service, that actually makes sense from the viewpoint of Zwingli, Calvin, and perhaps Luther, who would have said that "leftover" bread and wine was no longer the sacrament.

Fr. Serge

Quote: "I believe the Latin Church went through an unfortunate phase in which Eucharistic plate was being made out of ceramic, wood and other base materials in the mistaken belief that this better reflected Christ's "poverty". I hope they got over it." Unquote

The only thing wrong with this statement is the past tense. In my neck of the woods it is still very common to see ordinary wine glasses and pottery cups used in place of chalices, and wicker baskets in place of the paten or ciborium. (I speak of the ordinary form of the Roman liturgy.)

That said, I am shocked that anyone would consider using a plastic or a paper spoon to communicate the faithful. I hope it is a truly rare occurrence!