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When the nominations took place he had done nothing. When they were announced his foreign policy 'footprint' was no more distinct than it was...This is absurd. I suspect that the European intellectuals are stoking his ego to shape his policy.
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Personally I find the award extremely surprising. I think it is at best premature and at worst naive to award the Nobel Peace Prize to any sitting U.S. president during the first year of his first term. The last time the Prize was awarded to a sitting U.S. president was in 1919, when it was given to Woodrow Wilson.
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"The Committee has attached special importance to Obama's vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons."
But after the nominations after 11 days in office he had not had his nuclear weapon speech... (I presume he could have very well mentioned nuclear weapons during the campaign, but I must have missed it.)
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Although I hold some similar views to the President on Foreign Policy, I don't think it is enough to warrant the reception of an honor. Hopefully next year will be better!
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If he carried out the vision they refer to to its end, then I would not be surprised. I would like to listen in on the private conversations of foreign career diplomats. I would especially like to hear PM Putin's thoughts on this.
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I agree with Latin Catholic. It borders on the surreal.
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I agree with Latin Catholic. It borders on the surreal. ditto You know, sometimes it is enough to make one think that all the 'one world conspiricy stuff' is real.
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Jim Geraghty of National Review "supports" Obama's prize: Let Me Be Clear: We Must Credit Obama for His Accomplishments
This morning, with news that our president won the Nobel Peace Prize, after being nominated ten days into his presidency, I’m sure there are a lot of folks who aren’t fans of Obama reacting with disbelief and cynical, snarky remarks.
But let me be clear: This is a moment to give President Obama his due.
There are no longer any U.S. forces in Iraq; the war there is over.
Afghanistan is finally stabilized, with the populace reassured and President Karzai’s public trust reinvigorated by free and fair elections.
Israelis and Palestinians are finally working together to build a lasting peace.
Through our forthright and clear denunciation of brutality, the Iranian protesters have had their fraudulent election canceled, and true democracy is celebrated by every young man and young woman in the streets of Tehran.
The Guantanamo Bay prison is closed.
Through our diplomatic nudging, China has made great strides in its treatment of dissent, and the Dalai Lama is recognized by every world leader as a great man of wisdom.
Eastern Europeans in places like Poland and the Czech Republic sleep easily, no longer worried about the nefarious ambitions of the Russian bear.
A crisis in Honduras has been averted through the measured, deliberate effort of the administration.
No one in Asia worries about North Korean missiles any longer.
Pakistan is stabilized, and its citizens are reaching out to India in places like Mumbai.
In Egypt, after Obama’s speech, the government has never spent more time paying attention to dissenters like the Muslim Brotherhood.
Finally, the potential chaos from a global recession has been averted, as the U.S. economy has come roaring back to lead the world to new prosperity.
Come on, folks. With a record like that, Obama was a shoo-in.
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Meanwhile, on another site, a columnist says it is impossible not to see the resemblance between Obama and Jesus Christ:
1. They both hung out with low-lives.
2. They both gave out health care for free.
3. They both left us with a debt we can never possibly repay.
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When the nominations took place he had done nothing. When they were announced his foreign policy 'footprint' was no more distinct than it was...This is absurd. I suspect that the European intellectuals are stoking his ego to shape his policy. To amplify on what Terry wrote, nominations for the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize closed on 1 February 2009. Barack Obama was inaugurated on 20 January 2009. In the space of ten days, he changed the world.
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"'one world conspiricy stuff' is real."
The peace prize has been used to make political statements for some time. To me the most reasonable motivations would be to thumb their nose at former president Bush, the other would be to aggravate activism in the White House for nuclear nonproliferation and disarmament.
"New world order" talk has never held much water with me.
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Meanwhile, on another site, a columnist says it is impossible not to see the resemblance between Obama and Jesus Christ:
1. They both hung out with low-lives.
2. They both gave out health care for free.
3. They both left us with a debt we can never possibly repay. I'm sorry, but I find the American conservative response to Obama and his policies disturbing to say the least. The president's associations are hardly more assailable than any of ours at different times of our lives, while this extreme suspicion with respect to his health care proposals - manifest in the language it often is - is simply beyond the scope of most other Western people to understand. I mean, practically every country in Europe, together with Canada, has some sort of national health system; and while not perfect by any means, these seem to serve their populations pretty well. The opposition in America seems to be ideological and partisan rather than entirely rational, and it is no wonder that most of the world outside of the US looks on in bewilderment.
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To amplify on what Terry wrote, nominations for the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize closed on 1 February 2009. Barack Obama was inaugurated on 20 January 2009. In the space of ten days, he changed the world. No. His ideas changed the world. Millions of people worldwide were elated that someone who was actually interested in engaging the world head first instead of brawn first was elected to the most powerful position known to humanity. In this case, his election represented the triumph of ideas over schoolyard posturing. Sounds worthy of a Nobel Prize to me.
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Alexandr,
are you suggesting that Mr. Obama is the antichrist? I hope that's not your intention.
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