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This is a direct and serious accusation against a Orthodox priest. Please, what is your irrefutable proof?

Marian's point is valid. I don't understand Romanian, and the links are slow to load. Unless they provide reasonable proof that such event took place they should not be used as evidence to support an accusation. Father Coryolan needs to either provide valid documentation for his accusation or withdraw his accusation. [And I ask someone to provide a summary of the links Father has provided.]

Further, this Forum is not about documenting mistakes and sins of individuals. Father Coryolan really needs to tie this incident to the larger things he is speaking about.

there is nothing to summarize, a point shown in the middle of one where the man digresses on Japan and China. Just some talk of what observers saw of the fire. No smoking gun

The orthodox priest of this village recognized the church burnt because he forgot his cigarette there.

I know of an incident where a church in Pennsylvania burned down because an altar boy emptied the kadilo into the trash can, not realizing the coals were still hot. My mother-n-law started several fires in her home leaving lighted cigarettes around. Stuff happens.

[quote=Fr.Coryolan] The orthodox priest of this village recognized the church burnt because he forgot his cigarette there. [/quote]

Is this in the items you linked? Is there a link to this?

Meeting of the youth of the Eparchy of Cluj-Gherla:

http://www.bru.ro/cluj-gherla/intalnirea-eparhiala-a-tinerilor-cristos-este-speranta-mea/

Nice pictures of young people, Fr Coryolan

Can you provide a link in English please for the non-Romanian speakers among us ?

Unfortunately for the events in Romania it is not easy to find English links.

This I can appreciate - but on the whole , here we are English speaking , though some of us do have working [ or better ] knowledge of other languages.

Perhaps you would be willing to give us a precis in English of articles like these ?

I try to give the title of the event and the photos.I will try to speak little bit more of any news.

Church burned to the ground because of cigarettes thrown by priest.

A wooden Orthodox church, almost 300 years old in Soconzel county, in the municipality of Socond, completely burned Saturday afternoon through the negligence of the priest who threw a cigarette at random.

Firefighters arrived on the spot have found that the holy temple was already destroyed by fire to the extent of 95%. Although the church burned completely, the locals managed to save icons several hundreds of years old.

"The first investigation concluded that the fire erupted from a cigarette thrown at random by the priest in dry vegetation," said spokesman Inspectorate for Emergency Situations of Satu Mare, Aurel Ulici.

Father John Malancaş stated that he tried to extinguish the fire with an extinguisher but the fire spread rapidly, the wood being dry.

The Church, dedicated to "Holy Archangels Michael and Gabriel" dates from 1777 and was a historical monument. It was renovated 15 years ago and was in good condition.

Shlomo Fr. Coryolan waLkhoolkhoon,

As I have pointed out in other posts what I find very un-Christian is that many Eastern European Orthodox Churches do not believe that people have the right to worship as they choose, and that other religious bodies have the right to their property.

To destoy property so that they rightful owners can not use it is wrong. I would hope that Eastern Orthodox faithful that live in the West would communicate with their co-religious and tell them that they do not support such actions.

Fush BaShlomo Lkhoolkhoon,
Yuhannon

I have no time to translate the full article on Libertatea but I'll give you a summary:

It says a 300 year old wooden church burnt in its integrity at Soconzel (Satu Mare) on saturday (past week). It says that when the firemen arrived 95% of the church had burnt and that the villagers could save some icons.

They say that the fire started from a cigarette left near dry leaves by the priest. That's what the representative of the province's urgent situation's inspector said.

The priest Ioan Malancas declared he trid to stop it with a fire extinguisher but it didn't work and the dry wood burnt. The church was built in 1777 and is regarded as a valuable monument. It was renewed 15 years ago and in good state.

The article doesn't mention that the church belonged to the Greek Catholic Church.