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What does mean the metania when the name of Pope, Patriarch and Bishop are spoken? Is it to assume the blessing they give to celebrate the liturgy, and to assume the blessing they would give (and give when present) when their name are spoken and to venerate them, as they represent the Catholic Church?
And the metania for the "Mother of God" is it a veneration of the Holy Theotokos, or just of the all-holy name "God"? Or both? It seems that, as celebrants turn to the icon of the Holy Virgin to make the metania.
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In my parish, the congregation kneels during the epiclesis, except for the forty day period after Pascha. Yes, we kneel at the epiklesis (actually starting with the "take and eat"), the Lord's Prayer, the Elevation and the pre communion prayers except for those 40 days. Actual bows are quite rare, and usually limited to times like the singing of the Preterpivyj during Lent.
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Thank you for your responses.
On Sundays, would one substitute a little prostration for the full prostrations that are "prescribed" (or recommended)? Yes. On Saturdays and Sundays. Saturday is the Sabbath, a holy day. Sunday is the day of the Resurrection. Full prostrations are forbidden on both days (by one of the Ecumenical Councils.) Really? I'm surprised, they are still made in the Old Rite on Sundays.
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Really? I'm surprised, they are still made in the Old Rite on Sundays. Canon 20 of the First Ecumenical Council, held at Nicea in 325, as translated at: intratext.com [ intratext.com], reads: 20.
Since there are some persons who kneel in church on Sunday and on the days of Pentecost, with a view to preserving uniformity in all parishes, it has seemed best to the holy Council for prayers to be offered to God while standing.
(c. XC of the 6th; c. XV of Peter.) It only addresses Sundays (the day of Resurrection) and the Pascal Season.
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Ah but kneeling could be interpreted in a variety of ways. I would imagine that Old Believers would be aghast at going into a greek catholic church and seeing people kneeling on kneelers in pews.
On the other hand they wouldn't equate the zemlaya poklon (great prostration or bow) to kneeling. The prostration is a "bow", not kneeling.
Kneeling is what is done at the kneeling prayers at Trinity Sunday. It is the only time I have ever encountered kneeling as westerners would understand it in the Russian rite.
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