The Byzantine Forum
Newest Members
EasternChristian19, James OConnor, biblicalhope, Ishmael, bluecollardpink
6,161 Registered Users
Who's Online Now
0 members (), 1,801 guests, and 106 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Latest Photos
St. Sharbel Maronite Mission El Paso
St. Sharbel Maronite Mission El Paso
by orthodoxsinner2, September 30
Holy Saturday from Kirkland Lake
Holy Saturday from Kirkland Lake
by Veronica.H, April 24
Byzantine Catholic Outreach of Iowa
Exterior of Holy Angels Byzantine Catholic Parish
Church of St Cyril of Turau & All Patron Saints of Belarus
Forum Statistics
Forums26
Topics35,508
Posts417,509
Members6,161
Most Online3,380
Dec 29th, 2019
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 3 of 3 1 2 3
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 9
D
Junior Member
Junior Member
D Offline
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 9
I just love the $1000 fine, with threats of prison down the line. I'm 24, non-smoker and in good health. To get a plan that pays 100% after deductible (since the only real use I'd have of insurance would be something catastrophic and unplanned), it costs about $100-150/month or more on my own I've found.

The real way to help bring expenses down is to get rid of the mandated caps on medical school entries. The government creates artificial barriers to entry (an AMA monopoly) and then everyone freaks out when prices are high? Supply is far too small for demand. Fixing that is easy, doesn't reek of socialism, and will really help.

After all, do we really need a top-10 medical school doctor to give us a prescription for antibiotics for a sinus infection?

Malpractice is a thorny issue, but why they won't look at the artificially low supply just boggles my mind. Well, I know why...money. Same reason we can't buy drugs from overseas.

Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 7,334
Likes: 96
Moderator
Member
Moderator
Member
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 7,334
Likes: 96
darkwater685:

You may not be so pleased if this plays out in a manner similar to Social Security. The whole idea behind pools is that the members pay similar premiums into the pool and are covered for the same things on an as-needed basis. Conceivably you could soon be paying as much as those who are much older than you since the insurance industry cannot deny those with pre-exisitng conditions as they can do now. You might also consider the experience of those who fought for equality for young women in car insurance: they soon found that their premiums rose to those of the young men they wanted parity with. The premiums for health insurance may rise to meet the risk involved with insuring those with the most risk.

Another consideration is the whole idea of discrimination. The idea that those with pre-existing conditions cannot be excluded is based on the idea of eliminating discrimination. Tis latter was the way that premiums could remain low for those in the insurance pool. So it may be that everyone's premiums will rise to the level of those with the most risk. Being a non-smoker may soon be irrevelant.

My take--long-term--is that those like you--the young--will find the same deal that the government has given the young in relation to Social Security.

BOB

Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 1,125
Likes: 1
E
Za myr z'wysot ...
Member
Za myr z'wysot ...
Member
E Offline
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 1,125
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by StuartK
With punitive damages off the table, you remove the jackpot element from the equation, and the number of lawsuits will fall dramatically, as the more frivolous suits are abandoned.
Stuart,

That's it right there! Greed is allowed by law to be part of the equation--how can that not be a formula for disaster?

(It's amazing, too, how people's attitudes can change about things like malpractice suits when they are suddenly presented with the opportunity of "cashing in" on one.)


Originally Posted by darkwater685
The real way to help bring expenses down is to get rid of the mandated caps on medical school entries. The government creates artificial barriers to entry (an AMA monopoly) and then everyone freaks out when prices are high? Supply [of qualified doctors] is far too small for demand. Fixing that is easy, doesn't reek of socialism, and will really help.

After all, do we really need a top-10 medical school doctor to give us a prescription for antibiotics for a sinus infection?
DW,

Another excellent point!

From reading through this thread, two conclusions are inescapable:
  • The current "crisis" is real, but completely artificial, being the result of the usual "grab" for whatever money or advantage may be gotten at others' expense (and remember, it's not "stealing," because it's legal! sick ).
  • The proposed "solution" is no solution because it fails to address any of these issues and merely adds to them ($1000 fines, with threats of prison down the line? shocked crazy crazy crazy )

There are other factors that haven't been brought up in this thread as of yet--if I get a chance, I'll add something about some of those.


Peace,
Deacon Richard

Last edited by Epiphanius; 12/28/09 02:05 PM. Reason: clarity
Page 3 of 3 1 2 3

Moderated by  Irish Melkite, theophan 

Link Copied to Clipboard
The Byzantine Forum provides message boards for discussions focusing on Eastern Christianity (though discussions of other topics are welcome). The views expressed herein are those of the participants and may or may not reflect the teachings of the Byzantine Catholic or any other Church. The Byzantine Forum and the www.byzcath.org site exist to help build up the Church but are unofficial, have no connection with any Church entity, and should not be looked to as a source for official information for any Church. All posts become property of byzcath.org. Contents copyright - 1996-2024 (Forum 1998-2024). All rights reserved.
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 8.0.0