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Machts nicht. All such documents are directed towards the Latin Church--it does, after all, represent something like 97% of the Catholic faithful. That the Holy See has authorized celebration of the Liturgy of Addai and Mari without the Words of Institution, and allows communicatio in sacris between the Chaldean Catholic Church and the Church of the East (which, of course, also uses Addai and Mari), indicates that what the Church actually means is different from the way in which you have interpreted it.
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If Orthodox theologians are going to reject transubstantiation, then they need to show how their understanding of the eucharistic conversion does not commit them to idolatry. I would see that as an unreal question. We could ask how Catholics avoid idiolatry when they worship the Eucharist? Can we we sure they may not be worshipping the species and not only the substance? Father, believe me, if village Catholics can distinguish between the species (usually known as the attributes) and the substance and if they can avoid the idolatry of worshipping the species, village Orthodox are capable of doing the same!  And your question must be asked of all the Christians of East and West of the first millennium who had not heard of transubstantiation? Pope Saint Gelasius, Saint Irenaeus, Saint John of Damascus, Saint Symeon the New Theologian... How were they not committed to idolatry? We know they were not and the Orthodox, who simply continue the first millennium traditions, are no more guilty of idolatry either.  As always in these matters, theological "explanations" follow praxis. It is not surprising that theories like transubstantiation should arrive on the scene soon after eucharistic adoration outside the Mass begins to be practiced widely. It is precisely this practice that raises the question of idolatry in an acute way. But once the question gets raised, we can no longer return to some of the more inadequate theories of the past, such as we might find in Gelasius and Theodoret. Please note that I am not arguing that the theory of Aquinas is the most adequate "explanation" advanced in the history of eucharistic doctrine. But I am arguing that the reasons that generated the theory need to be understood and appreciated.
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That the Holy See has authorized celebration of the Liturgy of Addai and Mari without the Words of Institution, and allows communicatio in sacris between the Chaldean Catholic Church and the Church of the East (which, of course, also uses Addai and Mari), indicates that what the Church actually means is different from the way in which you have interpreted it. Does the Vatican allow the validity of Addai and Mari without the words of institution? Let us look deeper into the matter. "The doctrinal question before the Pontifical Council is whether the incoherent verbal form of the anaphora's Institution Narrative retains the substance of the sacrament. The Council decides that the "the words of the Institution are not absent in the Anaphora of Addai and Mari, but explicitly mentioned in a dispersed way, from the beginning to the end, in the most important passages of the Anaphora." Thus the Council upholds the traditional requirement that the words of Institution must be explicitly present in a valid Eucharistic Prayer. The oddity of the Anaphora of Addai and Mari is that these words are dispersed throughout the liturgy, but are nonetheless explicitly present."
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In other words, as long as the words "this", "is" "my" and "body" are there, all is well. Right. Concede--Addai and Mari has no institution narrative, it has no epiclesis, but it does have a true, valid and efficacious Eucharist. In my yeshiva days, we called arguments of this sort "pilpul".
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In other words, as long as the words "this", "is" "my" and "body" are there, all is well. Right. Concede--Addai and Mari has no institution narrative, it has no epiclesis, but it does have a true, valid and efficacious Eucharist. In my yeshiva days, we called arguments of this sort "pilpul". Oddly enough what you called pilpul in your yeshiva days is contained in the Vatican document to which you refer!  "So the words of the Institution are not absent in the Anaphora of Addai and Mari, but explicitly mentioned in a dispersed way, from the beginning to the end, in the most important passages of the Anaphora. It is also clear that the passages cited above express the full conviction of commemorating the Lord’s paschal mystery, in the strong sense of making it present; that is, the intention to carry out in practice precisely what Christ established by his words and actions in instituting the Eucharist." http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/p...oc_20011025_chiesa-caldea-assira_en.html
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Nothing says the Vatican can't use Talmudic methods. I've read the Liturgy of Addai and Mari. I've been present serving at the altar during its celebration. I know what is in it and what is not, and the Assyrians themselves will tell you their Anaphora does not have an institution narrative. Narrative implies continuity. Disjointed words do not constitute a narrative. If anything, the Vatican is guilty of bending over backwards to avoid offending the sensibilities of the poorly catechized who still believe that the Gifts are transformed by the words of institution, rather than by the anaphora as a whole.
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But, as Father Kimel told you, it isn't the teaching of the Catholic Church. It is, at best, the proper usage of the Latin Church. The Lineamenta was sent to the episcopal conferences, the Eastern Catholic Churches sui iuris, the Departments of the Roman Curia and the Union of Superiors General, with the expressed request that they set aside time for reflection and prayer on the topic and respond to the questions which treated various pastoral aspects related to the Eucharist. Because of the means of social communication, this document received a wide distribution in the Church and the world. Under the guidance of the bishops, the entire People of God made significant contributions on the topic in preparation for the synodal assembly. Responses to the Lineamenta and its Questions were sent to the General Secretariat by episcopal conferences, the Eastern Catholic Churches sui iuris, the Departments of the Roman Curia and the Union of Superiors General. Observations also came from bishops, priests, men and women religious, theologians and the lay faithful. Both are contained in the Instrumentum laboris. See 2004 Lineamenta http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/s..._20040528_lineamenta-xi-assembly_en.html2005 Instrumentum Laboris http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/s..._20050707_instrlabor-xi-assembly_en.htmlHis Beatitude the Patriarch Gregorios III criticized the Lineamenta: although they tried to contemplate the Eastern theology, the struggle was insufficient. Here are his considerations I had typed in an occasion in Portuguese precisely about the epiclesis and consecration (I think who read Spanish won't have difficult - I am not with time to translate now): "Nos textos das liturgias orientais, como das liturgias ocidentais em seu conjunto e em sua verdadeira realidade, não podemos tirar uma conclusão sobre o momento preciso da transubstanciação, essa é muito mais realizada no conjunto da liturgia eucarística, que é toda transubstancial.
A Consagração se faz então ao logo de toda Liturgia, e mais especialmente em momentos mais importantes, que são as Palavras da Instituição e a invocação do Espírito Santo (Epiclèse). No VIII século, São João Damasceno, em "A Fé Ortodoxa" (4,13), remarcou que a modalidade da transubstanciação não é dependente de uma operação de pesquisa e busca intelectual.
Da mesma forma, no Documento de Munich (6 de julho de 1982), que emanou da Comissão Mista para o diálogo teológico entre a Igreja Católica e Igreja Ortodoxa, é dito (I, nº5c et nº6) que a celebração eucarística é toda inteiramente epiclética, e que ela é expressa de uma maneira mais intensa em certos momentos: "O Espírito transforma os dons sagrados em Corpo e Sangue de Cristo (metabolé), para que se complete o crescimento do Corpo que é a Igreja. Nesse sentido, a celebração inteira é uma epiclese, que se explicita com maior força em certos momentos (...) Na Eucaristia, a epiclese não é unicamente uma invocação para a transformação sacramental do pão e do vinho. Ela é também uma oração pelo efeito pleno da comunhão de todos ao mistério revelado pelo Filho (...)
O mistério eucarístico atinge seu termo na oração que reúne as palavras pelas quais a Palavra que se fez carne instituiu o sacramento e a epiclese na qual a Igreja renova pela fé, suplica ao Pai, pelo Filho, de enviar o Espírito para que, na única oblação do Filho Encarnado, tudo seja consumido na unidade".
Podemos portanto dizer que as Palavras da Instituição, com a Epiclese, fazem a Eucaristia"
E Sua Beatitude escreve ainda que o lugar da epiclese na liturgia romana é contrária à sucessão bíblica dos eventos da economia divina: o Pentecostes vem depois da Ressurreição, depois da Instituição da Eucaristia, e não antes. Enquanto as liturgias orientais são fiéis à sucessão bíblica dos eventos da economia da salvação: Palavras da Instituição, Anamnesis e Epiclese. About epiclesis and Roman Canon, the Lineamenta defends that eucharistic prayer contains an epiclesis, just before the reference Fr. Ambrose quoted to Trent: In the first centuries, before the consecration, an invocation was made with hands extended (epíclesi) to the Father to send the Holy Spirit to sanctify and transform the bread and wine into the Lord’s Body and Blood. The basis of such a prayer is found in the Lord’s words following the institution of this mystery: “When the Counsellor comes...he will bear witness to me” (Jn 15:26), “bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you” (Jn 14:25) and “will glorify me” (Jn 16:14). Because of the controversies concerning the divinity of the Holy Spirit between the fourth and fifth centuries, the prayer was placed after the consecration, as witnessed by some liturgical traditions. The majority of the anaphora prayers, however, keep it in its original place, as in the Roman Canon which invokes the Father to send the Spirit, “the power of his blessing.”[141] In the following passage, they seem to link with the sacrifice a part even from the outside of the Anaphora, taking it as consecratory: In addition to altar coverings, the Byzantine Liturgy calls for the use of a sacred cloth depicting the deposition of the body of Christ from the cross. On this cloth rest the gifts which will become the Body and Blood of the Lord through an act representing the spotless passion of the Lord and his tomb.[128] To be worthy to offer these gifts for himself and for the sins of the people, the priest, after the “Great Entrance,” addresses a prayer of supplication to the Father. Sin (amartia) must be something foreign to him; even his most minor faults are serious, according to John Chrysostom: “not by their nature but by the dignity of the priest who dares to commit them.”[129] The incensation of the holy Gifts follows, a prefigurement of the descent of the Holy Spirit upon them[130] and the prayer of adoration which arises in Christ to the Father. The preparation and presentation of the Gifts, then, is not merely a moment of passage but an integrating, highly symbolic part of the Sacrifice.
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And just now I went take a look about that aspect in the post-synodal exortation Sacramentum Charitatis. It explicits: The Holy Spirit and the eucharistic celebration
13. Against this backdrop [that the Spirit is present in all acts of Christ and in the Church, continuing His work] we can understand the decisive role played by the Holy Spirit in the eucharistic celebration, particularly with regard to transubstantiation. An awareness of this is clearly evident in the Fathers of the Church. Saint Cyril of Jerusalem, in his Catecheses, states that we "call upon God in his mercy to send his Holy Spirit upon the offerings before us, to transform the bread into the body of Christ and the wine into the blood of Christ. Whatever the Holy Spirit touches is sanctified and completely transformed" (25). Saint John Chrysostom too notes that the priest invokes the Holy Spirit when he celebrates the sacrifice: (26) like Elijah, the minister calls down the Holy Spirit so that "as grace comes down upon the victim, the souls of all are thereby inflamed" (27). The spiritual life of the faithful can benefit greatly from a better appreciation of the richness of the anaphora: along with the words spoken by Christ at the Last Supper, it contains the epiclesis, the petition to the Father to send down the gift of the Spirit so that the bread and the wine will become the body and blood of Jesus Christ and that "the community as a whole will become ever more the body of Christ" (28). The Spirit invoked by the celebrant upon the gifts of bread and wine placed on the altar is the same Spirit who gathers the faithful "into one body" and makes of them a spiritual offering pleasing to the Father (29). Quoting the General Instruction to the Roman Missal, it does interesting remarks: The faithful need to be enabled to appreciate that richness. Here the General Instruction of the Roman Missal can help, with its list of the basic elements of every Eucharistic Prayer: thanksgiving, acclamation, epiclesis, institution narrative and consecration, anamnesis, offering, intercessions and final doxology (146). In a particular way, eucharistic spirituality and theological reflection are enriched if we contemplate in the anaphora the profound unity between the invocation of the Holy Spirit and the institution narrative (147) whereby "the sacrifice is carried out which Christ himself instituted at the Last Supper" (148). Indeed, "the Church implores the power of the Holy Spirit that the gifts offered by human hands be consecrated, that is, become Christ's Body and Blood, and that the spotless Victim to be received in communion be for the salvation of those who will partake of it" (149).
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Nothing says the Vatican can't use Talmudic methods. I've read the Liturgy of Addai and Mari. I've been present serving at the altar during its celebration. I know what is in it and what is not, and the Assyrians themselves will tell you their Anaphora does not have an institution narrative. Narrative implies continuity. Disjointed words do not constitute a narrative. If anything, the Vatican is guilty of bending over backwards to avoid offending the sensibilities of the poorly catechized who still believe that the Gifts are transformed by the words of institution, rather than by the anaphora as a whole. I also have been present at Addai and Mari, many times. The Local Church of the East priest (Old Calendar) is a personal friend. Stuart, to be fair, you would have to admit that every time when you disagree with the Vatican on this or that issue you believe it is the Vatican which is at fault.
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And just now I went take a look about that aspect in the post-synodal exortation Sacramentum Charitatis. It explicits: The Holy Spirit and the eucharistic celebration
13. Against this backdrop [that the Spirit is present in all acts of Christ and in the Church, continuing His work] we can understand the decisive role played by the Holy Spirit in the eucharistic celebration, particularly with regard to transubstantiation. An awareness of this is clearly evident in the Fathers of the Church. Saint Cyril of Jerusalem, in his Catecheses, states that we "call upon God in his mercy to send his Holy Spirit upon the offerings before us, to transform the bread into the body of Christ and the wine into the blood of Christ. Whatever the Holy Spirit touches is sanctified and completely transformed" (25). Saint John Chrysostom too notes that the priest invokes the Holy Spirit when he celebrates the sacrifice: (26) like Elijah, the minister calls down the Holy Spirit so that "as grace comes down upon the victim, the souls of all are thereby inflamed" (27). The spiritual life of the faithful can benefit greatly from a better appreciation of the richness of the anaphora: along with the words spoken by Christ at the Last Supper, it contains the epiclesis, the petition to the Father to send down the gift of the Spirit so that the bread and the wine will become the body and blood of Jesus Christ and that "the community as a whole will become ever more the body of Christ" (28). The Spirit invoked by the celebrant upon the gifts of bread and wine placed on the altar is the same Spirit who gathers the faithful "into one body" and makes of them a spiritual offering pleasing to the Father (29). Quoting the General Instruction to the Roman Missal, it does interesting remarks: The faithful need to be enabled to appreciate that richness. Here the General Instruction of the Roman Missal can help, with its list of the basic elements of every Eucharistic Prayer: thanksgiving, acclamation, epiclesis, institution narrative and consecration, anamnesis, offering, intercessions and final doxology (146). In a particular way, eucharistic spirituality and theological reflection are enriched if we contemplate in the anaphora the profound unity between the invocation of the Holy Spirit and the institution narrative (147) whereby "the sacrifice is carried out which Christ himself instituted at the Last Supper" (148). Indeed, "the Church implores the power of the Holy Spirit that the gifts offered by human hands be consecrated, that is, become Christ's Body and Blood, and that the spotless Victim to be received in communion be for the salvation of those who will partake of it" (149). Dear Philippe, I agree and everything you have quoted from the documents is true. However, when we get to the Vatican's bottom line on whether an epiclesis is necessary, the answer is NO! The very clear teaching from the Year of the Eucharist statement in 2005: "The Lord’s words are spirit and life (cf. Jn 6:63). Christ works together with the Holy Spirit, while remaining the one consecrator of the Eucharist and the dispenser of the Spirit. The Council of Trent has established that the epiclesis is not essential to the validity of the Eucharist."http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/synod/...ssembly_en.htmland "The Lord’s words are spirit and life (cf. Jn 6:63). Christ works together with the Holy Spirit, while remaining the one consecrator of the Eucharist and the dispenser of the Spirit.
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Since the Vatican is usually wrong when it disagrees with you that makes discussion impossible. We outsiders have no idea when we can believe the Vatican is presenting Catholicism accurately or when we need to distrust its teachings. In effect we are in a trialogue - The Vatican, the Orthodox, and Stuart Koehl! 
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According to the Antiochian Liturgy, Christ is the Consecrator, the Holy Spirit is the Perfecter and Sanctifier.
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I agree and everything you have quoted from the documents is true. However, when we get to the Vatican's bottom line on whether an epiclesis is necessary, the answer is NO! So? What's the big deal? An explicit epiclesis is unnecessary. An explicit institution narrative is unnecessary. All that is necessary is a legitimate rite of an Apostolic Church, celebrated according to the Tradition and with the intent of the Church. As I said, a very silly discussion, the main purpose of which is to create a wedge between Latin and Byzantine Christians where none exists.
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OK, folks, this is getting bizarre. We're having what I refer to as to how we are in "violent agreement." I really haven't been this baffled since reading Luther in college. This discussion is really reminiscent of his quibbling about *how* Christ was present . . . HHere are his considerations I had typed in an occasion in Portuguese precisely about the epiclesis and consecration (I think who read Spanish won't have difficult - I am not with time to translate now): Ack. I get a couple of paragraphs in before I realize I'm reading Portugese  (and by the way, this was easier for me to read than most Spanish, afte rall these years.) And now I recall our bafflement as altar boys so many years ago, trying to figure out when the third time to ring the bells was during the Roman Eucharistic Prayer. We lost it because it isn't in Eucharistic Prayer I (the Roman Canon), which apparently wasn't much in use in our parish when we were trained (1973). It's at the Epiclesis, which is in the other three . . (of course, once more today, I needed Father's gentle prod that I needed the incense ready for the Epiclesis, by which point I'm often lost in the Anaphora . . .) hawk
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