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Does anyone here believe that reunion between the Orthodox and Catholics is actually possible and could happen with in our lifetime? If so what are your reasons and any supporting factors if you have any?
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Realistically I'm going to say no.
Idealistically I would love for this to happen. Islam, secularism, and atheism would probably motivating factors for the East and West to come back together. Not that people who ascribe to these are bad, they are just misguided. We all know where the Truth lies: Catholicism and Orthodoxy.
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Possible, Yes. Take a miracle, but it's possible.
Not likely.
Some more corporate pastoral care agreements and permission for the faithful to commune in limited circumstances? Likely with specific Orthodox churches...
Really, I think the Oriental Orthodox are most likely to have more of their member churches enter into such pastoral care agreements (similar to those of the Armenian C&O, Syrian C&O, and Chaldean/ACE).
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I live with the expectation that it will happen. I have seen in my lifetime too many things happen that I thought never would. If secular powers can put aside their enmities, why not the apostolic churches? Ever so slowly I see the desire for unity becoming the will toward unity, and the will is what is necessary. Like Pentecost, it may even come as a sudden rush, and look nothing like we might imagine.
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If the Holy Spirit moves it will happen because it is the will of God! We need to make it happen in our own individual lives. Reminds me of the time I attended DL in a very very conservative Orthodox jurisdiction. I was introduced to the Bishop who thought I was Orthodox to which I responded no I am a Latin priest. The I got the lecture about the evils of Ecumenism.  Stephanos I If not now when? If not us whom?
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Possible? Yes, anything's possible.
Could it happen in our lifetime? 99.99999999999999999999% chance it won't happen in this century (take 4 or 5 "9"s to get my estimate for the current millenium).
Shalom, Memo
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I live with the expectation that it will happen. I have seen in my lifetime too many things happen that I thought never would. If secular powers can put aside their enmities, why not the apostolic churches? Indeed, things can very well appear unshakable when in fact they are on the verge of collapse. Let us remember that it was a lack of charity that caused our divisions, so it must be charity that will overcome them, and as St. Paul says, "Charity never fails." (1Cor. 13,8) Ever so slowly I see the desire for unity becoming the will toward unity, and the will is what is necessary. Like Pentecost, it may even come as a sudden rush, and look nothing like we might imagine.  Peace, Deacon Richard
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It may take a millennium, it may happen this afternoon, or it may not be God's will to happen at all, but why can't we work together to combat the Hagarenes and Humanism in the meantime? After all, if we work side by side, we may come to know one another. +Hilarion of Vienna suggested something along this line a while back, and this is one of the few times I find myself in agreement with him.
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Yes, but it would not take a miracle.
It would take a catastrophe.
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St. Photios the Great was a humanist, you know.
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In fact, the emergence of "humanism" in the Renaissance was the direct result of contact with Byzantine scholars and refugees fleeing the wreckage of the Eastern Empire.
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