The Byzantine Forum
Newest Members
HopefulOlivia, Quid Est Veritas, Frank O, BC LV, returningtoaxum
6,178 Registered Users
Who's Online Now
2 members (Adamcsc, 1 invisible), 591 guests, and 137 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Latest Photos
St. Sharbel Maronite Mission El Paso
St. Sharbel Maronite Mission El Paso
by orthodoxsinner2, September 30
Holy Saturday from Kirkland Lake
Holy Saturday from Kirkland Lake
by Veronica.H, April 24
Byzantine Catholic Outreach of Iowa
Exterior of Holy Angels Byzantine Catholic Parish
Church of St Cyril of Turau & All Patron Saints of Belarus
Forum Statistics
Forums26
Topics35,526
Posts417,645
Members6,178
Most Online4,112
Mar 25th, 2025
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 4,225
Likes: 1
Member
Member
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 4,225
Likes: 1
How can a evil spirit come from God ?

Brenton's LXX translation...


9 And an evil spirit from God was upon Saul, and he was resting in his house, and a spear was in his hand, and David was playing on the harp with his hands. 10 And Saul sought to smite David with the spear; and David withdrew suddenly from the presence of Saul; and he drove the spear into the wall; and David retreated and escaped

Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 275
P
Member
Member
P Offline
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 275
My Latin mind tells me: by God's permission.

Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 4,225
Likes: 1
Member
Member
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 4,225
Likes: 1
Douay/Latin...


19 9 And the evil spirit from the Lord came upon Saul; and he sat in his house, and held a spear in his hand: and David played with his hand. et factus est spiritus Domini malus in Saul sedebat autem in domo sua et tenebat lanceam porro David psallebat in manu sua
19 10 And Saul endeavoured to nail David to the wall with his spear. And David slipt away out of the presence of Saul: and the spear missed him, and was fastened in the wall, and David fled, and escaped that night. nisusque est Saul configere lancea David in pariete et declinavit David a facie Saul lancea autem casso vulnere perlata est in parietem et David fugit et salvatus est nocte illa

Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 7,309
Likes: 3
S
Member
Member
S Offline
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 7,309
Likes: 3
Orthodox Study Bible translation (1 Kingdoms 19:8-10):

Quote
(8) And the war continued to be waged against Saul; and David fought valiantly and prevailed over the Philistines. He struck them with an exceedingly great beating, and the fled before him.

(9) An evil spirit came from God upon Saul as he was resting in his house with a pear in his hand, and David was playing the harp. (10) And Saul sought to strike David with his spear, but David slipped away from him as he drove the spear into the wall. David fled and escaped.

Interestingly, the OSB lets this passage go without any comment at all.

Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 4,225
Likes: 1
Member
Member
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 4,225
Likes: 1
the KJV Old Testament text...

[9] And the evil spirit from the LORD was upon Saul, as he sat in his house with his javelin in his hand: and David played with his hand.


I have not found any comments regarding verse 9 in any of my bibles...


Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 4,225
Likes: 1
Member
Member
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 4,225
Likes: 1

Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 175
G
Member
Member
G Offline
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 175
The Haydock edition of the Douay Bible has this comment on I Kings 19: 9:

Saul. His jealousy was again enkindled by the success of David. C.

"C." refers to Dom Augustin Calmet

It is interesting that without going into all the detailed explanations of the apologetics site you referenced, this comment pretty well sums it up.

The Haydock edition is available online: http://www.veritasbible.com/drb/compare/haydock/1_Kings_19


Moderated by  theophan 

Link Copied to Clipboard
The Byzantine Forum provides message boards for discussions focusing on Eastern Christianity (though discussions of other topics are welcome). The views expressed herein are those of the participants and may or may not reflect the teachings of the Byzantine Catholic or any other Church. The Byzantine Forum and the www.byzcath.org site exist to help build up the Church but are unofficial, have no connection with any Church entity, and should not be looked to as a source for official information for any Church. All posts become property of byzcath.org. Contents copyright - 1996-2024 (Forum 1998-2024). All rights reserved.
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 8.0.0