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Great Videos of Coptic Liturgy in 10 parts. From Sinai and in English.

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Just go to sidebar to watch Parts 2-10

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Great videos! Thanks for the link.

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Many years to our brothers and sister of the Most Holy Coptic faith!
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Again, thanks for noting this video. It prompted me to write some thoughts [orthocath.wordpress.com] on how the testimony of the Coptic liturgy affects some Protestant arguments against liturgical and sacramental theology.

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I've added to the above commentary after reading some comments from a Protestant blogger here [orthocath.wordpress.com].

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The Coptic Liturgy is beautiful and the Coptic priests are very holy, especially the monks.

Unity between the Catholic Church and the Coptic Church was very possible, as the Non-Chalcedonian Churches lack the Anti-Roman spirit of the Byzantine-Slavonic Churches. However JPII destroyed everything when he signed the infamous agreement he signed with the Assyrians in Iraq.

Thanks to this agreement, Catholics who join the Coptic Church now have to be baptized again and the Roman Church is seen negatively in the Coptic Church.

Thanks a lot JPII.

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Originally Posted by Mexican
The Coptic Liturgy is beautiful and the Coptic priests are very holy, especially the monks.

Unity between the Catholic Church and the Coptic Church was very possible, as the Non-Chalcedonian Churches lack the Anti-Roman spirit of the Byzantine-Slavonic Churches. However JPII destroyed everything when he signed the infamous agreement he signed with the Assyrians in Iraq.

Thanks to this agreement, Catholics who join the Coptic Church now have to be baptized again and the Roman Church is seen negatively in the Coptic Church.

Thanks a lot JPII.
Dear Mexican,

Yes, Pope John Paul's actions did have quite a negative effect upon plans for intercommunion between the Coptic and Catholic Churches. I was intrigued by your negative comments toward the late Holy Father in Rome and looked at your profile to see if you were a Catholic. I found that your 'Religious Affiliation' is listed as "Former Orthodox." Hmm. That's pretty negative too. Could you not describe yourself as positively something? But perhaps you have lost all Faith and do not profess to be anything. Therefore your profession that you are formerly Orthodox is the best you can do?

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Dear Fr. David

I forgot to change my religious affiliation status long ago. It is certainly true that I used to be Orthodox. I am very thankful to Orthodoxy as I learnt the Christian faith through it.

I have embraced Traditional Catholicism this year, it was a very difficult decission and a very painful one, for I had everything in the Orthodox Church (a traditional liturgy, decent priests, and very devote brothers in the faith). I was quite conscious that as an Orthodox Christian I wouldn't have any problem to be Christian while the Catholics sometimes have to ressist the hierarchy in order to be Catholic.

However, the answers of the Catholic Church convinced me (concerning the faith and the state of the soul after death and the issue of the papacy). The fact that I attend a Traditional Latin liturgy (as there is no traditional Eastern liturgy) doesn't mean that I have repudiated the Eastern tradition.

It is my personal opinion that John Paul II was a man of personal holiness. However, his actions deeply damaged the Church, especially because of his support of false Ecumenism and his closeness toward Judaism and Protestantism. During his pontificate, I saw the Roman Church as another Protestant denomination, but my contact with Traditional priests these last years made me change my mind.

I know it's distressful for some to hear that I have left Orthodoxy, being myself a faithful supporter of it. I brought people from Hispanic backgrounds to the Orthodox Church. Orthodoxy is so beautiful, I miss that peace and beauty, but I chose to be in Communion with the Succesor of Peter even in spite of all the problems that the Catholic Church has.

Asking for your blessing.

Juan (Mexican)

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Prayers! I made the journey back to Orthodoxy this year so if I may, can I ask for prayers too? smile

Also, noticing from your profile that today is your birthday:

¡Feliz cumpleaños!

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Juan, my brother and friend,

Let me join David in wishing you a (belated) happy birthday and praying that God grant you many more years.

Neil


"One day all our ethnic traits ... will have disappeared. Time itself is seeing to this. And so we can not think of our communities as ethnic parishes, ... unless we wish to assure the death of our community."

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