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Dear JL:

Now I suppose those same RO teachers will now claim that they have found ancient manuscripts which prove that Galician Chant was really composed in Zagorsk.

I'm laughing at my own Russo-phobia in case you haven't noticed.

Yours,

kl

Dear Herb:

Did I hear you right when you said that the participant in question went with the parish's financial backing?

HMMMMM...

Yours,

kl


P.S. Synovy ksionzda dobre povodytsia.

Or would they say that Galician chant is a rare kind of previously "undiscovered" chant (Valaam? Pskov? Yaroslavl'?) that Bakhmatev just seems to have missed when he compiled the Obikhod...

Incognitus, I was just kidding about the "Kiev" thing, it was about supper time when I thought of that, and since we seem to be fixed on fixations here

Where can one get info on these publications? Is there a web site or catalog somewhere?

I finally figured out what happened in China!

A renewed opportunity to be Nash-ty. :p

Justinian, they can be obtained from St. John of Kronstadt Press at www.sjkp.org [sjkp.org] Have you checked out the Old Believer parish in Erie?

No wonder we have problems getting youth involved when they exhibit genuine enthusiasm and interest in church activities and are treated like this.
Bozhe, milostivi bud' meni hrishnomu.

I believe I wrote: i.e. my information is that people found out about the boys interest in going (using up their valuable summer holidays) and voluntarily contributed money for their tuition.

Without knowing a lot about it, I can certainly imagine parishioners both appreciating the interest these young people take in Church (not to mention the important contribution they make to the congregation's worship) and want to encourage their interest.

One just has to listen to the congregational singing that they have shared with us on the St. Elias website: http://www.saintelias.com/Music/Music/Music.html

How many parishes have the joy of their young people taking such active part in the Divine Services. I wish that some of this could rub off on the young people of my parish! Heck, now that I think about it, I'm ready to make a little financial contribution to them!

Herb

ps: Again...so WHAT happened in China?

Write to the bookstore, Holy Trinity Monastery, Jordanville, New York and ask for their latest catalogue. The catalogue is often out of print, but in that event they'll send you the new one as soon as it's printed. The folks at Saint John of Kronstadt Press do good work, but almost exclusively in English. Incognitus

Thank you Diak, I will check out the web site.

Yes, I have visited the Old Believer Church a few years ago. It is a very beautiful place of worship. I know they have a bookstore. I am not certain of its hours of operation. I will have to call.

Dear Herb:

The Krylos choir which I have the honor of conducting is also made up of (mostly) young people. Problem is, some of us consider it a labor of love and fund the choir ourselves.

Yours,

kl

Herb wrote:

Thanks Herb for that music link! What a treasure!!

And, what did happen in China? (Does this relate to some new movie or something?--am I showing my ignorance here?)

David Ignatius DTBrown@aol.com

It's all Greek to me too

OK I apologise for that - but sometimes the oldies are the best.

Anhelyna

You can also get some CDs directly through Archpriest Roman (Galadza). He can be contacted through the St. Elias website www.saintelias.com [saintelias.com] May God bless him for all of his toil to restore the beauties of our liturgical tradition! And Vichnaja Pamjat to Kyr Isidore who ordained Archpriest Roman.

You can also look at some written music at http://www.unmercenary.com/index.html They have Galician, Carpatho-Rusyn and Obikhod written music there if you have Adobe.

Dear Friends,

I have reconsidered my views on ROCOR.

I withdraw what I said insofar as they reflected falsely on the intentions of those who have written here.

It is clearly not my place to judge anyone or to insinuate anything.

As a penance, I will be sure to travel again to Jordanville and ask them for forgiveness before buyng any more of their books or icons.

I still don't understand why we Ukies need to go to a Russian church to "deepen" our knowledge of our own tradition.

I point fingers at no one - perhaps sensitivity in this respect is a internal matter for those who feel it.

I think that is still a valid point that needs explanation.

We have had Russophile priests in the past who don't see the difference between the Ukrainian and Russian traditions.

If going to Jordanville reflects, in any way, that mentality, that would truly be unfortunate.

Orthoman, wait for me!

Alex

Dear Herbigny,

I appreciate your comments, and I suppose we agree to disagree.

With respect to St Elias' parish willingness to send the boys to Jordanville, that is that parish's business alone.

Those fellows would have to look long and hard for another parish in the UGCC that would have agreed to do the same thing.

Once again, I would appreciate it if someone could explain why Ukies need to look outside the Ukrainian Church (and into a Russian jurisdiction not in communion with mainstream Orthodoxy) to deepen their knowledge of the Ukrainian liturgical tradition?

One can either assume two things: 1) The UGCC is bereft of any resources in this regard; or 2)the Russian tradition is viewed as being 'above' the Ukrainian tradition i.e. Russification in practice.

And I make no apologies for not wishing to be associated with a church that is not only in schism from Orthodoxy, but which is also quite anti-Rome and anti-Ukrainian.

But I've had a chance to speak briefly with a number of our priests and bishops over last week.

I mentioned ONLY my attitude. And they all agreed with me.

Perhaps they are lacking in Christian charity as well?

In any event, I am with them.

Alex