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Glory be to Jesus Christ!
A very simple question:
Can a RC or Eastern Catholic go to confession to an Orthodox priest and receive absolution??
In Christ! Francois
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The simple answer is " Yes".
There must be a good reason for this.
ie. there is no catholic priest available as in emergency situations.
I am sure that there are other reasons but time does not allow me to continue and hopefully others will fill you in on them.
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Christ is in our midst!!
That's interesting because I've been told by Orthodox priests that they cannot give absolution to anyone who is not in communion with them. Therefore, not to me.
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Glory be to Jesus Christ!
A very simple question:
Can a RC or Eastern Catholic go to confession to an Orthodox priest and receive absolution??
In Christ! Francois I am pretty sure not...since absolution implies "sacrament"
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Not sure of the Byzantine Orthodox Churches, but Catholics can approach a Syrian Orthodox and Armenian Apostolic priest for absolution and vice versa, per agreements with each other's Holy Synod.
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Michael is correct, and the same is true of the Chaldeans and Assyrians, under the provisions of the agreements for pastoral care of one another's faithful, although the implicit undertanding - in all of these instances - is that such is done when there is no access to a priest of one's own Church. Also implicit is the consideration that the provisions are intended to be exercised between the respective Churches (e.g., the agreement with the Syriac Orthodox is intended to encompass their Syriac Catholic counterparts and vice-versa, rather than the broader Orthodox and Catholic communities - although I have heard that the Syriacs particularly are not much constrained on that point). Insofar as the other Oriental Churches, there are not presently any such agreements in place (although I believe that the Malankara subscribe to the Syriac agreement, albeit informally).
As regards the Eastern Orthodox Churches, the Catholic Church would allow of it under the provisions of Canon Law, in the circumstances that Kolya has described. However, the Orthodox Churches would not and the expectation on the part of the Catholic Church is that its faithful should not seek to circumvent the rulings of the Orthodox hierarchy in this matter. or the matter of reception of the other Mysteries.
As has been noted on several occasions in the past, the situation in the Middle East between and among the Melkites, the Antiochians, and the Syriacs (Catholic and Orthodox) is somewhat more relaxed vis-a-vis reception of the Mysteries in circumstances where there is no access to a priest of one's own Church. I have never heard specific reference made to Confession, but as the Mysteries of Communion and Anointing are often cited, I suppose it's a logical possibility. But, those circumstances are extraordinary, are exceptions, and should be understood as the economia which they are.
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The question of sacraments? "I am pretty sure not...since absolution implies "sacrament".
If the Orthodox church will not give the sacraments/mysteries to a non-orthodox, then what happens in mixed marriages and I have been to many in our church where one party is Orthodox and the other was Catholic(with the permission of the Catholic party's RC Bishop. and the Mystery of Crowing was celebrated in our Orthodox church by our Orthodox priest.
Who receives the sacrament of matrimony/mystery of crowning?
Just one party in this union or is it half a union ????????
Z Bohom Kolya .......Oh, if this is off topic and should be in its own topic I am sorry.
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Glory to Jesus Christ! Kolya .......Oh, if this is off topic and should be in its own topic I am sorry. Do not worry. Just means you definitely belong here  Kyrie eleison, Manuel
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Kolya, Not that off-topic, believe me. And I second Manuel's observation (he learned fast  ). The Mystery of Crowning involving a Catholic and an Orthodox has been particularly addressed in documents deriving from the Orthodox-Catholic consultations (I forget the particular name of the body) and is the topic of specific guidelines issued by the USCCB on the Catholic side and SCOBA (I think) on the Eastern Orthodox side. There is a virtually - if not absolutely - identical set of guidelines that addresses mixed marriages between a Catholic and a member of the Oriental Orthodox Communion. Links to the guidelines have been posted previously and I'll repost them if I can put my finger on them tonight (unless someone else does so sooner). The short answer to the particular question is that the guidelines generally presume such marriages will be conducted in the Orthodox Church. Confession, though, and the other Mysteries are another matter and the situation is such as Job stated and I elaborated, insofar as the Eastern Orthodox Churches - and as Michael and I discussed regarding certain of the Oriental Orthodox Churches. As regards the Coptic, Ethiopian Tewahado, and Eritrean Orthodox Churches, the situation is nowhere near as accepting as it is with the Armenians, Syriacs, and Malankara and I'd go so far as to say that the viewpoint in those Churches is more likely to mirror that of the Eastern Orthodox - without unity, there cannot be access to the Mysteries. Many years, Neil
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These are our diocesan guidelines which I think are pretty standard In the case of a mixed marriage between an Orthodox Christian and a non-Orthodox Christian, the marriage must be celebrated by an Orthodox priest in the Orthodox Church according to Orthodox liturgical tradition. The parties must promise solemnly and in writing that any children born of the marriage will be reared and raised exclusively in the Orthodox Church.
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These are our diocesan guidelines which I think are pretty standard In the case of a mixed marriage between an Orthodox Christian and a non-Orthodox Christian, the marriage must be celebrated by an Orthodox priest in the Orthodox Church according to Orthodox liturgical tradition. The parties must promise solemnly and in writing that any children born of the marriage will be reared and raised exclusively in the Orthodox Church. Indeed they are and those essentially mirror the guidelines to which I referred above. Many years, Neil
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