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For informational purposes:

Our parish website was posted ten days ago at www.stjohnbrantford.com [stjohnbrantford.com]

Today, by searching with the name of our city and either of the words Ukrainian or Eastern, our page is the first return on Google.

Search for Byzantine and our city name, our website is returned by Google as the fourth entry. The first is this forum.

This happened because I have actively sought multiple links to our page.

Immediately on posting, I linked to it from our facebook page, and sent emails to local Roman parishes with websites and all the parishes of the Eparchy that I could find websites and email addresses for, to request reciprocal links. This included perhaps 15 parishes in total.

I wrote also to the webmaster of the Eparchy site, and the site of the Patriarchate (which maintains a "Web Resources of the UGCC" section on their site).

With Google, I identified the directories and listings, yellow pages type sites, that list our parish. These, where possible, I edited to include links to our parish website. Possibly ten.

I wrote also to what Catholic directories I could find (like CatholicDirectory.com) and what Ukrainian sites I could find.

I also requested a correction and inclusion of our website address on Google Maps, and added us to Wikipedia both in the entry for our city and the entry for the UGCC.

Google ranks page relevance partly from the number of pages that link to it. If you are linked to from a lot of places, Google will think you are important.

Today I received an inquiry from a member of the local public not attached to the parish who found our site through Google.

We are perhaps becoming more visible.

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Originally Posted by JDC
For informational purposes:

Our parish website was posted ten days ago at www.stjohnbrantford.com [stjohnbrantford.com]

Today, by searching with the name of our city and either of the words Ukrainian or Eastern, our page is the first return on Google.

Search for Byzantine and our city name, our website is returned by Google as the fourth entry. The first is this forum.

This happened because I have actively sought multiple links to our page.

This is great!!!

I am going to copy your above post tomorrow (actually, later today, I guess) and add it to the 'parish websites worth seeing' thread.

Many years,

Neil


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Visiblilty should not just be internet visibility but also community visibility.

My own (BCC) parish seems to do virtually nothing in terms of community visibility, yet a much smaller Russian Catholic parish, (El Segundo, CA), regularly holds fund raising dinners, each month, for various charities.

I write this is the general sense, not as any criticism regarding what a parish mission is.


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Originally Posted by Steve Petach
Visiblilty should not just be internet visibility but also community visibility.

My own (BCC) parish seems to do virtually nothing in terms of community visibility, yet a much smaller Russian Catholic parish, (El Segundo, CA), regularly holds fund raising dinners, each month, for various charities.

I write this is the general sense, not as any criticism regarding what a parish mission is.

Steve, my friend,

Your comments are very valid and the ongoing thread that I initiated of parish websites worth seeing was never intended to suggest that a website replace the day-to-day activity, spiritual and communal, that should mark a parish.

There are, without question, intensely viable and thriving parishes that have no internet presence. Likewise, there are parishes that are prominently displayed on the web but are lacking in anything which suggests a vibrant parish life.

The whole thrust of that thread, however, was and remains to be an effort to encourage our parishes to take advantage of what has, as we all know, become a major communication tool - not just to those faithful already enrolled and (hopefully) active in a parish.

In your years here, you've undoubtedly seen the hundreds of inquiries posted by persons looking to find a parish. There are many reasons behind these: people are relocating due to jobs, a child is headed off to school in a distant city, people are seeking to return to a faith with which they've lost touch, others are unchurched but now seek to find God, and, for some it's as simple as a planned vacation and the desire to worship while away from home.

I think that, overall, our members do an admirable job in answering those requests - talking up parishes that they know, praising the spirituality of a given parish, extolling the beauty of this or that temple, remarking on the welcoming nature of its parishioners, and highlighting the qualities of the priests. And, the positive feedback that often follows shows that inquirers generally take them at their word.

But, we live in an age when people are attuned to seeking out audio and visual sensations to satisfy their curiousity. Thus, the ability to point to a website the content of which supports all that has been said and displays a parish community which is spiritually and communally vibrant can be a major deciding factor between just stopping at the first Catholic or Orthodox church one passes and seeking out a specific one. And, we are kidding ourselves if we don't take advantage of this medium, because we need it to evangelize and we need to evangelize.

So, we need both - the day-to-day vibrancy and to make it known. St Andrew's in El Segundo is, as you describe it, and has fulfilled it's mission without much of an internet presence until relatively recently. Could it do more with greater visibility? I don't know, but it would be worth a try.

Does St Mary's need both - more day-to-day vibrancy and a more visible presence? Sounds like it, from what you say. Could having the latter help to bring about the former? Perhaps - maybe if there was a greater awareness of it, with a resulting influx of new blood, there would be demand for, and interest in, more activity. I'm not intending to be critical; I know that you've created an unofficial site and a facebook page - significantly more internet presence than it ever had. Hopefully, those will help to drive things in a positive direction.

Many years,

Neil


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